Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Aug 2012 22:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless I always see The Netherlands - my home country - as a small, easily graspable version of other, larger and more important western countries and even the west as a whole. In light of this,'s Arnoud Wokke points to a very interesting report about the Dutch telecommunications market. This reports notes a trend that, if present in the rest of the world, could have serious effects for phone makers.
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Honestly ...
by WorknMan on Sat 18th Aug 2012 00:58 UTC
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I would rather just pay the $600+ up front and pay a cheaper monthly rate, thereby saving money over time. However, with some carriers in the US (like Verizon), the monthly fee is the same whether you buy the phone up front, or get it at a subsidized rate. Therefore, it makes no sense to pay full price on the phone.

This may be different on other carriers in the US, but not sure. I'm on my parents' family plan on AT&T now, so saving quite a bit from what I was paying with Verizon.

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RE: Honestly ...
by gfolkert on Sat 18th Aug 2012 04:30 in reply to "Honestly ..."
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Beginning of August, I got 4 - Samsung Galaxy Nexus Phones, 1 - Motorola Droid RAZR and plenty of addons/accessories with a total bill "pre-subsidy" of nearly $4,000.

Post subsidy: $159.62, including all fees and setup.

I'm also paying about $70 less per month than I was with 2 - Droid-X, 1 - LG Ultimate Java Phone, 2 - Nokia "Text and Phone" phones. And now is with a data plan that matches what I've used in the last 2 years with the DroidX and a USB Broadband Modem. Additional bandwidth in 2GB Chunks is only $10. I have no limit phone minutes and texts. My daughters (one married with 2 kids, other in 2nd year College) use about 14,000/month of texts. I get about 2000 pages from monitoring systems. My oldest daughter has her phone hermetically attached to her ear, when she isn't texting. My Wife in on the other end of many of the minutes and texts from both my Daughters. My Son-in-law uses about 700 minutes a month (mostly to my oldest daughter) and about 4 texts.

Other than that, I feel I got a pretty good plan and some really nice phones (for almost dirt). Once you wrangle the Battery usage issue on the Nexus Phone... it lasts about 3 days for me and about 35 hours for my wife. Which is longer than each of our previous phones. (Me DroidX and her the Java Phone)

So... I feel sorry for you peeps getting Subsidies dropped.

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RE[2]: Honestly ...
by B. Janssen on Sat 18th Aug 2012 06:36 in reply to "RE: Honestly ..."
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I'm happy that you feel you are getting a good deal. I, however, am confused by your summary. How much are you paying each month?

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RE: Honestly ...
by brostenen on Sun 19th Aug 2012 20:42 in reply to "Honestly ..."
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Unless you want to own all of the phone from day one.
That is why i got a medium range phone.
It does the basic, just as well as one of the top line.
I use it for calling, texting, music, dropbox(and "clones"), travel planning, news and mail.

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