Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 17th Aug 2012 22:48 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless I always see The Netherlands - my home country - as a small, easily graspable version of other, larger and more important western countries and even the west as a whole. In light of this,'s Arnoud Wokke points to a very interesting report about the Dutch telecommunications market. This reports notes a trend that, if present in the rest of the world, could have serious effects for phone makers.
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RE: Honestly ...
by gfolkert on Sat 18th Aug 2012 04:30 UTC in reply to "Honestly ..."
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Beginning of August, I got 4 - Samsung Galaxy Nexus Phones, 1 - Motorola Droid RAZR and plenty of addons/accessories with a total bill "pre-subsidy" of nearly $4,000.

Post subsidy: $159.62, including all fees and setup.

I'm also paying about $70 less per month than I was with 2 - Droid-X, 1 - LG Ultimate Java Phone, 2 - Nokia "Text and Phone" phones. And now is with a data plan that matches what I've used in the last 2 years with the DroidX and a USB Broadband Modem. Additional bandwidth in 2GB Chunks is only $10. I have no limit phone minutes and texts. My daughters (one married with 2 kids, other in 2nd year College) use about 14,000/month of texts. I get about 2000 pages from monitoring systems. My oldest daughter has her phone hermetically attached to her ear, when she isn't texting. My Wife in on the other end of many of the minutes and texts from both my Daughters. My Son-in-law uses about 700 minutes a month (mostly to my oldest daughter) and about 4 texts.

Other than that, I feel I got a pretty good plan and some really nice phones (for almost dirt). Once you wrangle the Battery usage issue on the Nexus Phone... it lasts about 3 days for me and about 35 hours for my wife. Which is longer than each of our previous phones. (Me DroidX and her the Java Phone)

So... I feel sorry for you peeps getting Subsidies dropped.

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RE[2]: Honestly ...
by B. Janssen on Sat 18th Aug 2012 06:36 in reply to "RE: Honestly ..."
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I'm happy that you feel you are getting a good deal. I, however, am confused by your summary. How much are you paying each month?

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RE[3]: Honestly ...
by Morgan on Sun 19th Aug 2012 10:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Honestly ..."
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Not to speak for gfolkert, but it's been my experience that Verizon is the most expensive carrier by far. Like all of the other carriers, I get a 15% government discount even on personal plans, and I was trying to choose between Sprint and Verizon last year. Though Verizon had a better choice of phone hardware (they even still offered the BlackBerry Storm 2, a great phone in my opinion), I ultimately went with Sprint because the monthly bill was nearly $30 less for more features.

With Verizon I would have been paying, after taxes and fees, nearly $120/month for one phone with 2GB of hard capped data, unlimited voice minutes and unlimited texts. With Sprint I get truly unlimited data, unlimited texts and 450 minutes of voice (with free calling to any wireless number) for about $90/month. Given that I use, on average, 30 voice minutes a month, it was a no-brainer. I still got a very nice WP7 phone for free, in fact I preferred the HTC Arrive because of the keyboard, and I saved enough on the bill over the past few months to justify buying a Nexus S 4G so I'll have a great Android phone too.

In the interest of full disclosure, we have a femtocell (or whatever Sprint calls it) at the office since all the deputies and administrators are issued Sprint phones. This means I get a nearly perfect signal anywhere in the building. With Verizon the opposite is true; finding a good signal inside is an exercise in frustration. However, this had very little impact on my decision since I rarely use my phone at work for more than reading Kindle books and listening to music stored locally on the phone.

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RE[3]: Honestly ...
by Fergy on Tue 21st Aug 2012 08:06 in reply to "RE[2]: Honestly ..."
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I'm happy that you feel you are getting a good deal. I, however, am confused by your summary. How much are you paying each month?

I would not be surprised if this was written by a bot ;)

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RE[3]: Honestly ...
by gfolkert on Tue 21st Aug 2012 22:04 in reply to "RE[2]: Honestly ..."
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I was paying $338 per month for all 6 devices before the switch.

Now... I pay $265 including the extra data for all 6 devices. A deal.

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