Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Aug 2012 22:14 UTC
Legal "The web has been alight these past few weeks with the details of the Apple v. Samsung lawsuit. It's been a unique opportunity to peer behind the curtain of how these two companies operate, as the trial seeks to answer the question: did Samsung copy Apple? But there's actually another question that I think is much more interesting to the future of innovation in the technology industry: regardless of whether the courts say that Samsung copied Apple or not, would we all be better off if we allowed - even encouraged - companies to copy one another?" This is very relevant.
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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 21st Aug 2012 08:29 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

They were just "dumb" phones with features tacked on. While there were phones about that were truly different, they never really made it big in the market place.


Symbian? PalmOS (Treo)? Windows Mobile?

Those were pretty big.

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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by henderson101 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 11:22 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Symbian? PalmOS (Treo)? Windows Mobile?

Those were pretty big.


Not really. Not here in the UK.

Symbian was most frequently on the Nokia dumb phones here, and the N95 was probably the first popular Symbian phone that really made inroads towards "smart"... but it was still pretty basic by comparison to Android or iOS these days. There was UIQ, but those phones were stupidly expensive (this was when most people paid max £25 for a new phone on contract - they were upwards of £80.)

The Treo was available here, but was niche due to the price tag. I never saw one in the wild, despite being in IT and owning (and loving) various Palm(OS) devices.

Windows Mobile, yes there were quite popular amongst geeks/IT professionals, but they also had crappy battery life. I worked with Windows Mobile devices for a number of years and the XDA (the one O2 in the UK sold, I think MDA was another re-badging by Orange or similar) was okay... it wasn't brilliant though. We had about 4 or 5 different models in house and they were all light on battery duration. They also cost a lot more than most casual users would pay for a phone - especially when Data contracts were still really expensive in the UK. I did work with someone who used to buy (at full price) the HTC Win Mobile phones (the smallish one) right up to Win Mobile 6.5 and loved them. Still had crappy battery life and he has since moved to Android.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 12:13 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

In The Netherlands it was all Nokia, the candy bar ones being most popular. Windows Mobile was pretty rare and well, Treos even more.

Nokia did make the best "dumb" phones.

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RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510
by lucas_maximus on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Not in the UK.

Everyone was using Nokias on pay monthly contracts and pay as you go for ages. Most feature phones were Nokias were not much more than 3210s on steroids.

http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/June2005/Nokia6280Closed.jpg

This was selling for the same price a HTC desire in 2005, and it was hardly more than a 3210 with a colour screen and a web browser and a few Java Apps.

Sorry Treo, PalmOS and Windows Mobile was hardly mainsteam and didn't have the impact the iPhone did. I knew one person that had a Treo and work gave him that.

I never met anyone that was running Windows Mobile and Palm phones were mostly unheard of.

A lot of people in the UK love their blackberry's, mainly because they are cheap with contracts and we send a lot of SMS messages.

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RE[5]: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Mon 27th Aug 2012 23:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Everyone was using Nokias on pay monthly contracts and pay as you go for ages. Most feature phones were Nokias were not much more than 3210s on steroids.
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/June2005/Nokia6280Closed.jpg
This was selling for the same price a HTC desire in 2005, and it was hardly more than a 3210 with a colour screen and a web browser and a few Java Apps.

If you put it that way - same could be said about the iPhone ...except, it didn't even have apps (which are quite popular on Nokia feature phones: http://www.opera.com/smw/2012/03/ - or were on Symbian smartphones, for which UK was one of the prime markets, contrary to what you seem to imply)

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