Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Aug 2012 22:14 UTC
Legal "The web has been alight these past few weeks with the details of the Apple v. Samsung lawsuit. It's been a unique opportunity to peer behind the curtain of how these two companies operate, as the trial seeks to answer the question: did Samsung copy Apple? But there's actually another question that I think is much more interesting to the future of innovation in the technology industry: regardless of whether the courts say that Samsung copied Apple or not, would we all be better off if we allowed - even encouraged - companies to copy one another?" This is very relevant.
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RE[4]: Ridiculous
by henderson101 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 13:50 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Ridiculous"
henderson101
Member since:
2006-05-30

Exactly. So the OP may have only joked about creating a blog. But, you know what? That's kind of how OS News started/got to this point. It existed for some time. However, once Eugenia took over as editor, it became a lot like her personal tech blog and she built a following and achieved "critical mass". Thom took over and did much the same, maybe even more so. I'll ask the original question in a slightly different way "Why is it okay to read a blog post on the blog post here, and not on an up and coming new site with less readership?" There you go. Answer that.

I also think claiming OS News has a real community is stretching the reality of this site somewhat. We have a small gathering of real users. We have a bunch of zealots for various hardware/software vendors/flavours foaming at the mouth. We then have a lot of trolls who will argue that the moon is made of cheese just for the rise. Problem is, the zealots don't play well together and trolls bleat loudly. Most of the real people are drowned out on many comment threads. It's usually only the more traditional OS News items (the ones on OS development and non Apple/Microsoft/Linux/iOS/Android) that get decent comments and interesting feedback.

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RE[5]: Ridiculous
by jgagnon on Tue 21st Aug 2012 14:03 in reply to "RE[4]: Ridiculous"
jgagnon Member since:
2008-06-24

You will get more of the bad as any site grows... Slashdot is a great example. It's nearly impossible to have a reasoned conversation there. Here, at least, it is a lot easier to ignore the trolls because there are fewer of them.

To answer your question, nothing stops people from leaving Site A and going to Site B except their attachment to A, however strong or weak that may be. This is where the copying argument gets hard to quantify. Plenty of folks stick with Apple BECAUSE it is Apple, not because of any single quality or quantity. If Samsung comes along and makes a cheaper clone that doesn't mean everyone that is currently using the original will switch to the cheaper clone. Some will, no doubt, but those people weren't the kind of customers that Apple was looking for to begin with.

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RE[6]: Ridiculous
by henderson101 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 10:32 in reply to "RE[5]: Ridiculous"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Exactly. That was exactly Jobs stand point. The Apple credo is very much - "We make great products; great products change the world. If you don’t like our products, get other products." - "Other products" being something made by another company. I saw a quote from Jobs close to that sentiment, but I can't find a reliable source online. Jobs very much stood by that throughout his life. It's one of the things that, despite the many flaws in his general make-up, one should respect him for.

Edit: an just to show how that statement doesn't contradict Apple suing the bejesus out of anyone "copying" their products:

Most people make the mistake of thinking design is what it looks like. People think it’s this veneer – that the designers are handed this box and told, ‘Make it look good!’ That’s not what we think design is. It’s not just what it looks like and feels like. Design is how it works. – Steve Jobs


Edited 2012-08-22 10:35 UTC

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RE[5]: Ridiculous
by Fergy on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 21:00 in reply to "RE[4]: Ridiculous"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

I also think claiming OS News has a real community is stretching the reality of this site somewhat.

I come here on OSnews because they have the best comments. Most websites have 99% clueless users that know so little that it would take years of educating before you could even start a discussion with them.

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