Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:27 UTC
Apple Vlad Savov at The Verge: "Today's been rather a momentous day in the UK mobile arena, following local regulator Ofcom's approval of Everything Everywhere's plans to use existing spectrum to roll out LTE service early. Vodafone, O2 and Three have complained in unison against the market distortions that would result from one carrier having 4G while everyone else waits for an oft-delayed auction, but their biggest fear may yet remain unspoken: a de facto exclusive on the next iPhone."
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Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:47 UTC
MOS6510
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2011-05-12

For me 3G is fast enough. I'd rather have 3G everywhere, there are still some black holes. As they couldn't fix these over the last few years I doubt 4G coverage would be better than 3G's.

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Thom_Holwerda on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:49 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Four gees? My town dun' even get three gees.

:(

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:56 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

It's a silly place.

I do have 3G where I live, well around my house. Other places in my village are suspect at best. Even worse where my wife's parents used to live there was no 3G, try surviving for hours with your in-laws without 3G. They recently moved, so I thought the 3G thing would be solved, but their new place is in a dead zone as well. Sometimes 3G appears, but then nothing happens and then 3G goes away again.

And why does my wife get upset if I stare at my phone all the time? The rest read folders and watch Carlo & Irene. Talk about mental torture.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by Brendan on Tue 21st Aug 2012 15:59 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
Brendan Member since:
2005-11-16

My town uses the standard 9.8 m/s/s "1g". If they increased it to 4g, the extra weight would make it too hard for people to get off of the couch.

- Brendan

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by Yehppael on Tue 21st Aug 2012 16:53 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
Yehppael Member since:
2012-08-01

Yup, 3G speed is quite enough for what you can do on a phone.

What I'm curious, is how much they plan to increase their prices in the 3G networks to support the 4G one ...

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Tue 21st Aug 2012 18:24 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

For me 3G is fast enough. I'd rather have 3G everywhere, there are still some black holes. As they couldn't fix these over the last few years I doubt 4G coverage would be better than 3G's.

I doubt 4G is very much about increasing theoretical maximum speed for individual subscriber, as far as the telecoms are concerned... in their eyes, LTE has greater spectral efficiency - hence the ability to squeeze more users (each getting "acceptable" speed) in a given chunk of spectrum, particularly in dense locations.

Short-term, probably not that much of a difference for subscribers; not likely to disrupt anything (especially since the new iPhone will certainly work just fine on older networks, and probably use noticeably more battery on the newer)

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Tue 21st Aug 2012 18:57 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Any change is always bound to increase prices for us. LTE has a theoretical speed most if not all people will never get anyway.

Rumor has it the new iPhone's battery has only a slightly larger capacity. Unless they have some new generation LTE chips it may cut its operation time shorter than the iPhone 4/4S. I'd prefer it to be a bit longer.

In a way it's a kind of disgrace these cell phones, Apple and others, barely make it to the end of the day on their battery charge. I'd say make it 2 days and even that's crap. You can't use your phone without any power outlets nearby.

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by WorknMan on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 06:24 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

For me 3G is fast enough. I'd rather have 3G everywhere, there are still some black holes. As they couldn't fix these over the last few years I doubt 4G coverage would be better than 3G's.


Plus, for the carriers (in the US) that do have decent 4g coverage, they cap their data plans such that you can't do anything interesting with it anyway, so might as well stick with 3g/HSPA+.

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RE: Comment by MOS6510
by henderson101 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 10:42 in reply to "Comment by MOS6510"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

There aren't a "few" black holes. As a real world example - there is no 2G (let alone 3G) on the train mainline from the South Coast between Petersfield and Guildford. Not on O2, not on Vodafone and not on 3. Given O2 and Vodafone together are close to 50% of the UK carrier market, isn't that pretty pathetic? That's 40 minutes of a 1.5 hour journey on the mainline commuter backbone! From Guildford, the reception is spotty, and the closer you get to central London, the more bogged down it is and the slower the speed is. And yet we now have WiFi on the Tube? I'd LOL if it wasn't so depressing.

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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by MOS6510 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 10:48 in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Luxury.

Before I had an iPhone I used an iPod touch on the train. The stations had free WiFi, but often before I managed to make a working connection the train would start moving again. Around this time I started to dislike web apps a lot.

Recently I spend 4 days in Belgium in a resort. I found an open WiFi, but I never got an IP address. Tried it every day (while waiting in the snack bar queue). I assumed it was not for visitor use, but part of some system. When we left we could fill out a form grading all the resort services, this included use of the free WiFi(!).

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