Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Aug 2012 21:57 UTC
Windows With Windows 8 right around the corner, the usual game of reading the end-user license agreements and spotting the different versions is in full swing. Usually, this is a game of ridicule as Microsoft comes up with ever more convoluted version schemes and EULA terms. This time around, though, the company seems to be taking steps to make things easier, as Ed Bott reports.
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Simple All right
by Lorin on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 03:10 UTC
Lorin
Member since:
2010-04-06

The software is licensed, not sold. Under this agreement,

This in effect destroys "fair use" as earlier Supreme Court rulings stated that you did buy and own the software.

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RE: Simple All right
by shmerl on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 03:49 in reply to "Simple All right"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Sounds rather lame too. It can't destroy courts ruling. EULA can claim that MS owns the Moon or what not. If it goes against the law - it's void.

Edited 2012-08-22 03:49 UTC

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RE[2]: Simple All right
by WereCatf on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 14:00 in reply to "RE: Simple All right"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

If it goes against the law - it's void.


To be precise: only the clauses that are in violation of existing laws are void, not the whole EULA, ie. the parts the are covered by e.g. copyright laws are still valid.

Here in Finland marketing laws basically say that if you sell something like a shelf product then it is a shelf product, regardless of what the license or the box says, ie. "if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it is a duck." This also covers things like selling a used product: as long as you give all the needed materials to the new owner and remove all backups from your possession you're free to sell the item even if the EULA tried to prevent you from doing that.

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RE[2]: Simple All right
by zima on Tue 28th Aug 2012 23:35 in reply to "RE: Simple All right"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

EULA can claim that MS owns the Moon or what not. If it goes against the law - it's void.

There are no laws against owning the Moon by MS, by private or commercial entities in general... (the treaty is only about govs)

And, as we all surely know, the Moon is claimed (after he bought one of the Lunokhods) by Lord British. Ultimately, it's only a matter of the right price, I guess ...or an EULA in which Lord British wilfully enters.

Edited 2012-08-28 23:36 UTC

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RE: Simple All right
by JAlexoid on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 08:41 in reply to "Simple All right"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Is license transfer prohibited? Because even if it states that it's licensed, you still acquire(buy) the license.

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RE: Simple All right
by moondevil on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 09:19 in reply to "Simple All right"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

In most European countries the EULA is meaningless, regardless of what software vendors want you to believe.

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RE[2]: Simple All right
by jboss1995 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 19:22 in reply to "RE: Simple All right"
jboss1995 Member since:
2007-05-02

Do you know what it is in the US? Is the EULA fully enforceable in the US?

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