Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 07:50 UTC
Legal "After weeks of witnesses, prototypes, and one last failed settlement talk, it came down to this: Apple and Samsung's closing arguments in what is very likely the tech trial of the century. The day saw both sides landing heavy blows before sending the case off to the jury - where anything can happen." The jury has to contend with 109 (!) pages of instructions and a verdict form consisting of whopping 22 pages with over 700 (!) verdicts to make - and they have to be unanimous. This is beyond ridiculous, bordering on the clinically insane. With several options for appeal still open, there is nothing to be gained from this. It's a circus.
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Resistance is Futile...
by orfanum on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 08:53 UTC
orfanum
Member since:
2006-06-02

What's next from Apple I wonder, that nobody may wear black turtle-neck sweaters?

Lest anyone forget, the very foundation of Apple's brand was justifiably disputed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Corps_v_Apple_Computer

Read it - breached originally by Apple Computer even after legal judgement.

For Jobs it was 'painful' to have had the dispute (but not so sore that he or his company ever decided to desist).

So, even if this does go in Samsung's favour (and for various reasons, I hope it does), don't expect Apple to respect even the law.

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RE: Resistance is Futile...
by MOS6510 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 10:24 in reply to "Resistance is Futile..."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Apple Corps sued in 1978 over the Apple name, they settled for $80.000. Nothing wrong or evil about that.

In 1989 Apple Corps sued again because Apple Computer added a MIDI interface. This killed the Apple ][. Does this make Apple Computer evil?

In 1991 Apple Computer had to pay $26.5 million because they included a sound sample. Is this evil? They paid up.

In 2003 Apple Corps sued and lost.

In 2007 Apple Computer paid Apple Corps $500 million to buy their trademarks. Nothing wrong with that.

Since then The Beatles have appeared on iTunes, making more money for Apple Corps.

I don't think whatever Apple did or does will influence sales of The Beatles. It seems more that Apple Corps was just trying to extract money from Apple, which they managed to do.

But there is nothing illegal, evil or wrong doing from Apple.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Uhm, you forget to mention Apple violated their settlement agreements several times in that case.

Selective perception is a b*tch.

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RE[2]: Resistance is Futile...
by orfanum on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 16:43 in reply to "RE: Resistance is Futile..."
orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

I think I said they breached legal judgements - hence the fines.

I didn't bring morality into it; if you look at the behaviour of Apple, you will discern however a way of pushing either the spirit or the letter of the law when it suits them, baiting and switching on that as they go.

I would only add one thing to your own list, arrogance (the jingle "sosumi" = "so sue me") which I do hope will soon be transformed into hubris.

The whole thing for consumers and the tech industry is altogether indeed a Greek tragedy IMHO

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turtle-neck sweaters
by Lennie on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 17:12 in reply to "Resistance is Futile..."
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

The turtle-neck sweaters wasn't something the Jobs came up with just look up Jobs, Sony, uniform, turtle-neck sweaters.

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