Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 07:50 UTC
Legal "After weeks of witnesses, prototypes, and one last failed settlement talk, it came down to this: Apple and Samsung's closing arguments in what is very likely the tech trial of the century. The day saw both sides landing heavy blows before sending the case off to the jury - where anything can happen." The jury has to contend with 109 (!) pages of instructions and a verdict form consisting of whopping 22 pages with over 700 (!) verdicts to make - and they have to be unanimous. This is beyond ridiculous, bordering on the clinically insane. With several options for appeal still open, there is nothing to be gained from this. It's a circus.
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RE: Resistance is Futile...
by MOS6510 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 10:24 UTC in reply to "Resistance is Futile..."
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

Apple Corps sued in 1978 over the Apple name, they settled for $80.000. Nothing wrong or evil about that.

In 1989 Apple Corps sued again because Apple Computer added a MIDI interface. This killed the Apple ][. Does this make Apple Computer evil?

In 1991 Apple Computer had to pay $26.5 million because they included a sound sample. Is this evil? They paid up.

In 2003 Apple Corps sued and lost.

In 2007 Apple Computer paid Apple Corps $500 million to buy their trademarks. Nothing wrong with that.

Since then The Beatles have appeared on iTunes, making more money for Apple Corps.

I don't think whatever Apple did or does will influence sales of The Beatles. It seems more that Apple Corps was just trying to extract money from Apple, which they managed to do.

But there is nothing illegal, evil or wrong doing from Apple.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Uhm, you forget to mention Apple violated their settlement agreements several times in that case.

Selective perception is a b*tch.

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RE[3]: Resistance is Futile...
by MOS6510 on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 11:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Resistance is Futile..."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

By adding a MIDI interface and a sound sample? Yes, they're evil.

Apple Corps doesn't do much but make money from The Beatles, 50% of them are dead. It does give a strange ring to the "Corps" bit of the name.

A MIDI interface and a sound sample have no influence on The Beatles sales or Apple Corps, yet they made over $500 million. And after that they made even more money by selling The Beatles in the iTunes Music Store.

In no way did Apple Computer harm them or put them out of business. They gave Apple Corps a lot of money and then some.

So it's a bit strange to label Apple Computer as a repeat offender that can't be trusted. Even stranger not being allowed to make any kind of sound because you named your company after a piece of fruit.

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RE[2]: Resistance is Futile...
by orfanum on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 16:43 in reply to "RE: Resistance is Futile..."
orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

I think I said they breached legal judgements - hence the fines.

I didn't bring morality into it; if you look at the behaviour of Apple, you will discern however a way of pushing either the spirit or the letter of the law when it suits them, baiting and switching on that as they go.

I would only add one thing to your own list, arrogance (the jingle "sosumi" = "so sue me") which I do hope will soon be transformed into hubris.

The whole thing for consumers and the tech industry is altogether indeed a Greek tragedy IMHO

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