Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Aug 2012 19:54 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless As Sammobile reports: "Samsung will not bring any kind of new Bada phones in the second half of 2012. Samsung's latest bada phones showed up last year at IFA 2011 in Berlin. Samsung showed the Wave3, Wave M and Wave Y, all those devices run on Bada version 2.0. The focus of Samsung in the second half of 2012 is fully on Windows Phone 8 and Android. Because the Windows Phone market is in the hands of Nokia they will try to get that share back. Samsung will also try to make their Android position better than before. Thanks to some new Galaxy products in the second half of 2012. Another sad thing is Samsung moved their first TIZEN OS devices to 2013. Samsung already gave away some developers devices with TIZEN 1.0. The only problem is the support from TIZEN itself." Tizen was a lost cause to begin with, and Bada, while actually pretty good, can easily be replaced by Android. As much as it sucks to lose two operating systems (don't kid yourselves - these are EOL messages), it makes sense from a business perspective. Next up: the TouchWiz team.
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RE[6]: no surprise here
by przemo_li on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 20:04 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: no surprise here"
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Nokia CEO was not succes.

N9 was profitable and got better reviews than iPhone. N95 got DESIGN award over iPad2 in GB. If that is not definition of success than I do not know what success is...

Nokia decision of halting MeeGo had noting to do with performance of MeeGo. In fact Nokia CEO publicly stated that such performance is irrelevant and that even with big success MeeGo will not be continued.

Some analyst calculated that if N9 was backed by sane CEO, and sold in every major Nokia market than Nokia would be on + just from revenues of Nokia handsets unit.

That is definition of cash success.

Only failure of MeeGo is that it happened to be launched under CEO who wanted to gain market share for other company. And you can hardly blame MeeGo for Nokia shareholders decisions.

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RE[7]: no surprise here
by shmerl on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 21:30 in reply to "RE[6]: no surprise here"
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I'm not talking about Nokia, I'm talking about Meego project which was too dependent on Nokia. That spelled its doom the moment Nokia's mood changed. Being so dependent on an unreliable supporter can't be called success. Mer was created to address this problem.

Edited 2012-08-23 21:33 UTC

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RE[8]: no surprise here
by przemo_li on Fri 24th Aug 2012 08:21 in reply to "RE[7]: no surprise here"
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I do agree. MeeGo like Tizen now was too dependent on single OEM. ;)

But that is how Intel wants it. They want to sell their chips, so they need mobile OS that can run on x86. That is why Nokia was choosed. They had all to win to focus on MeeGo. While Intel would get market for its chips.

Though calling Nokia unreliable at that time is not fair. Nobody thought that Nokia would choose completely new OS ecosystem that would have nothing do to with anything "Nokia", and would not benefit Nokia ecosystem.

Foreseeing that would require large amount of insanity on behalf of person making prediction.

In other words, organization behind MeeGo had ingrained risk, but very very very small. Our lose that in the end it was too large.

On the other hand N9 and N95 prove that coop between Nokia and Intel was good enough to create wonders. Shame on Nokia CEO for not using it.

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RE[7]: no surprise here
by zima on Wed 29th Aug 2012 23:59 in reply to "RE[6]: no surprise here"
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You're living in fantasy world. Yes, evidently you have no idea what success means - it's certainly not about some fanboy reviews, or meaningless design award given to an absolutely fugly phone (but, coincidentally, ~made in the UK - where Nokia has/had major design & Symbian operations - the same place where the award you claim is located ...likely just a case of pompous hipster buddies). N9 never came close to returning the looong investment in it & its platform.

WebOS, RIM, Bada, all failing and/or losing momentum... if there's a place for third player, that's certainly MS with their resources and overall influence on the industry; if Nokia didn't want to be relegated to being just another Android oem (where they wouldn't be able to compete with vertically integrated Samsung, like like most present Android OEMs are unable), then MS was the only way.

Edited 2012-08-30 00:05 UTC

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