Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Aug 2012 23:54 UTC
Legal And just like that, within a matter of days, the jury has reached a verdict in Apple vs. Samsung. The basic gist is simple: Apple's software patents are valid, and many Samsung devices infringe upon them. Apple's iPhone 3G trade dress is valid, and Samsung's Galaxy S line infringes, but other devices did not. Samsung did not infringe Apple's iPad design patent. Apple did not infringe any of Samsung's patents. Apple is awarded a little over $1 billion in damages. Competition lost today, and developers in the United States should really start to get worried - software patents got validated big time today.
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RE: Oh the rage on here...
by Morgan on Sat 25th Aug 2012 01:23 UTC in reply to "Oh the rage on here..."
Morgan
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I'm not defending Apple here; I certainly had hoped the trial would go the other way. But I have to admit I've seen a trend in the Korean market towards copying Western design. Take Kia and Hyundai cars, for example. Every time Honda makes a change to the Accord's headlights and tail lights, the following year's Hyundai sedans take on a similar look. There is a Kia car that is a cartoonish mashup of Jaguar and Mercedes sedans as well. In fact, I'd say the only Kia/Hyundai vehicle that isn't a blatant copy of a Western design is their minivan.

That's not to say that I think Samsung copied the various iDevices with all of their products. In fact, I'd say that there are several HTC phones that would be easier to confuse for an iPhone. The fact is, it's difficult to get away from the rectangular, black-bordered touch screen design when it comes to something you're going to stick up to your ear and talk into. Until Google improves the Project Glass hardware to the point that a phone is integrated into the frame, we're going to be stuck with slabs of plastic, glass and metal for a while yet.

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RE[2]: Oh the rage on here...
by orfanum on Sat 25th Aug 2012 01:40 in reply to "RE: Oh the rage on here..."
orfanum Member since:
2006-06-02

Paper. Moveable metal typeface. Gunpowder. Porcelain. Pasta.

The West has spent hundreds of years since the Early Modern Period ransacking the world for substance as well as style.

Time to give back a little, cut a little slack? ;)

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RE[3]: Oh the rage on here...
by orfanum on Sat 25th Aug 2012 02:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh the rage on here..."
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2006-06-02

Do we have Brevik supporters in da house; history a little difficult to take?

The serious point being that ideas and intellectual goods flow, move, evolve, become hybrid, adapt and become therefore resilient due to figurative intercourse between cultures. Without such dynamic interplay there's stagnation.

The same goes for biology; just try keeping that Herrenrasse corralled for a few generations - you'll soon have physiological weaknesses and a marked falling off of adaptability.

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RE[2]: Oh the rage on here...
by unclefester on Sat 25th Aug 2012 04:02 in reply to "RE: Oh the rage on here..."
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2007-01-13

There is only ONE optimal solution to any real world engineering problem. There is only ONE practical design for any sub-type of car (small hatchback, large sedan, SUV etc). That is why all the vehicles in any segment look similar.

Kia cars are designed in the USA. They are not copies of anything western.

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RE[3]: Oh the rage on here...
by Morgan on Sat 25th Aug 2012 08:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Oh the rage on here..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

Please reread my post. I'm not talking about general shapes or functional designs, I'm talking about those little touches that normally make it easy to distinguish one make from another. You're not going to look at a Ford Fusion and a Honda Accord and confuse the two; there are distinctive flourishes that make each car stand out and speak its designer's language. Now, take a 2008 Accord and a 2009 Hyundai Elantra. They have nearly indistinguishable front fascias. The 2009 Hyundai Sonata goes even further back; its tail light shape, size and angles are almost exactly the same as the 2005 Accord, to the point that you have to be close enough to see the swooping "H" symbol to know it's a Hyundai.

Kia cars are designed in the USA. They are not copies of anything western.


Not quite true. From Wikipedia: "The Namyang Design Center, located in Hwaseong, South Korea, serves as Kia's primary design facility. The facility, which is shared with parent company Hyundai, is located on over 3.3 million square meters of land and serves as the central hub for engineering work encompassing the entire design process, from pre-design studies, prototyping and extensive track testing, full-scale wind tunnel aerodynamic testing, to crash testing." (emphasis mine).

Anyway, I have nothing against Kia/Hyundai; indeed, ever since Hyundai re-released the Accent I've been interested in driving one, as well as the 2012 Elantra redesign, but my current needs and financial situation dictate that I stick with my older, paid-for truck and SUV.

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