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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 25th Aug 2012 11:19
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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Aug 2012 11:28
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I'm cheering Samsung?
I'm cheering the industry - which has, sadly, been dealt a heavy blow. Samsung, Apple - they can all disappear for all I care. The industry is all I care about.
I'm cheering the industry - which has, sadly, been dealt a heavy blow. Samsung, Apple - they can all disappear for all I care. The industry is all I care about.
Same here - both of them suck; Samsung and their shit support for older devices with Apple believing that the only way they can compete is to sue competitors into a new dimension. Both of them suck but until things change in the United States, the crucible of IT, things won't change internationally.
Why do you automatically assume people are cheerleading for Samsung? How about they're cheerleading against this patent bullshit? This will affect us all, Android users, Apple users, everyone who wants to enjoy progress. Innovation will slow down: start-ups and investors are scared, and established players no longer have a reason to due to their patents.
It baffles me how people can become so brainwashed by a company that they happily cheer against their own interests and that of their descendants, and think that anyone who opposes this behaviour must cheer for the enemy. Companies are the new religions it seems.
Edited 2012-08-25 11:27 UTC
RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Sat 25th Aug 2012 11:35
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Why do you automatically assume people are cheerleading for Samsung? How about they're cheerleading against this patent bullshit? This will affect us all, Android users, Apple users, everyone who wants to enjoy progress. Innovation will slow down: start-ups and investors are scared, and established players no longer have a reason to due to their patents.
It baffles me how people can become so brainwashed by a company that they happily cheer against their own interests and that of their descendants, and think that anyone who opposes this behaviour must cheer for the enemy. Companies are the new religions it seems.
It baffles me how people can become so brainwashed by a company that they happily cheer against their own interests and that of their descendants, and think that anyone who opposes this behaviour must cheer for the enemy. Companies are the new religions it seems.
Please, if I listed every problem I had with Apple I'd get the question, "then why the hell do you use Apple products" - in a perfect world we wouldn't have software patents but until American voters stop voting based on the three G's and engage the system as to demand patent reform things will keep getting worse as people like me in NZ (a small country) will get the result of the craptacular system. In a perfect reality everyone would ignore the US market, US based companies would pull out of the US market and let the damn thing collapse but far too many businesses have far too much money vested in maintaining the status quo in some form.
With that being said, Microsoft is coming off looking like an angel when compared to Apple at this moment. One thing I will concede is someone noting that Apple when given the sort of power Microsoft has will be far worse - as seen so far things are moving in that direction. Where as Microsoft is happy to ask for $3 per unit we have Apple who effectively wants the vendor to shut down - $45-$50 is not realistic and pretty much demands that the business closes their doors.
RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by andydread on Sat 25th Aug 2012 11:46
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"[q] Btw, the law suit wasn't on one aspect but the culmination of all the various parts that were blatantly ripped off - it is one thing to take a few ideas and build upon them whilst creating a unique experience but it is an entirely different situation to be a 'me too'.
Apple lost in the UK, Germany, The Netherlands, Australia, and South Korea.
Apple won in the US (the only jury trial).
Make of it what you will, but "blatant" is not the term I'd use. "
But you're OK to cheerlead on Samsung who have been been caught out with LCD price fixing, mobile price fixing, memory price fixing etc. etc. more damage to consumers than any so-called patent war could ever do thanks to Apple's paranoia. [/q]
I don't think the OP was cheerleading on Samsung like you are cheerleeding for the destruction of the freedom to write code. What Apple and Microsoft are doing is abusing the patent system and opening up a pandora box of software-patents on every little feature of software. And with this we are heading for truly dark times when the only people that can legally write commecial code in the US are the ones who have the approval of Apple and Microsoft. And we have seen that by their rules that code must not compete with them. Think about this for a minute. You sit down at your computer and write your own code totally unique to you but because it does some function such as hyperlink to a phone # you are now at risk of being sued. even if your code is totally different from anything Apple wrote. This a very very bad situation. Basically What Appple and Microsoft are doing is taking ownership of other people's code through the use of software-patents.





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Apple lost in the UK, Germany, The Netherlands, Australia, and South Korea.
Apple won in the US (the only jury trial).
Make of it what you will, but "blatant" is not the term I'd use. "
But you're OK to cheerlead on Samsung who have been been caught out with LCD price fixing, mobile price fixing, memory price fixing etc. etc. more damage to consumers than any so-called patent war could ever do thanks to Apple's paranoia.