Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 26th Aug 2012 10:28 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In light of the jury verdict in Apple vs. Samsung, the one-liners and jokes flew back and forth. One in particular, by Dan Frakes, has been copied and pasted all over the web, and it goes like this: "When the iPhone debuted, it was widely criticized for having no buttons/keys. Now people think the iPhone's design is 'obvious'." This is a very common trend in this entire debate that saddens me to no end: the iPhone is being compared to simple feature phones, while in fact, it should be compared to its true predecessor: the PDA. PDAs have always done with few buttons.
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RE: history
by Tony Swash on Sun 26th Aug 2012 23:04 UTC in reply to "history"
Tony Swash
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2009-08-22

The reactions over here make me wonder.

First there is Tony Swash stating:
"the role of Apple's innovation in the history of personal computing"

Now I have been around the IT business for about 30 years and I consider that role as non existent. Apple never played a significant role in business IT and it does not now, I do not know of any innovations originating form Apple, they have only copied, made it into a shiny device to satisfy their tribes of believers.

Second, there is TM99, giving some real insight and the fitting quote,
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

His reaction went under in the button-nobutton nonsense, that is a pity. The historic facts he has given are worth checking before one starts to give his opinion based on . . . on what? Believes? Assumptions?


I do find that a genuinely weirdly narrow and crippled view of tech history, especially coming from anybody interested in the history of personal computing. Oh well. Takes all sorts. Happy dreams ;)

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RE[2]: history
by Dr.Mabuse on Mon 27th Aug 2012 01:52 in reply to "RE: history"
Dr.Mabuse Member since:
2009-05-19

I do find that a genuinely weirdly narrow and crippled view of tech history, especially coming from anybody interested in the history of personal computing. Oh well. Takes all sorts. Happy dreams ;)


No, he's right.

Easily for 99% of businesses Apple has, until very recently, been completely non-existant.

Even now, it's only the "must have gadget" for the hipster crowd that may very well fall out of favour in the future - who knows.

So many people are buying the iPads and iPhones and they're not even sure what they're supposed to be doing with them. You download a few apps, play some angry birds and then you just go back to using the phone as per usual.

I only even saw Macs in educational departments and in use by the occasional graphic designer. They were a pretty cool (albeit expensive) niche product, and while they had a pretty quirky fan base, I never had much against (or for) them.

Maybe If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I would have bought one, but as it stood they never repesented great value for money.

But now we enter the Apple "reality distortion field" - where people such as yourself want to elevate Apple to a position it never held. This attitude is rapidly eroding any good will people have for this company.

To be clear: They have always made fine products, they have contributed tremendously to the field of computer usability, but for goodness sake, recognise the fact that they are NOT alone, they they are NOT the only player in town and ALL of these companies borrow ideas from one another.

DARE to open your eyes to the article Thom has posted. See those devices? What do they look like? Will you allow yourself to make the admission that perhaps Apple borrowed an idea or two from them? Consider then the injustice of attributing all major innovations to a single company. Try to be a bit more fair and open minded.

I asked you in another thread, but I will ask you again: Do you have a dog in this fight? I suspect you have more than a passing interest in Apple's well-being here.

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RE[3]: history
by MOS6510 on Mon 27th Aug 2012 04:49 in reply to "RE[2]: history"
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2011-05-12

I can only imagine Janvl and you live in North Korea or some other country cut of from the rest of the world.

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