Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th Aug 2012 18:38 UTC
Legal Well, that didn't take long. Groklaw notes several interesting inconsistencies and other issues with the jury verdict. "If it would take a lawyer three days to make sure he understood the terms in the form, how did the jury not need the time to do the same? There were 700 questions, remember, and one thing is plain, that the jury didn't take the time to avoid inconsistencies, one of which resulted in the jury casually throwing numbers around, like $2 million dollars for a nonfringement. Come on. This is farce." My favourite inconsistency: a Samsung phone with a keyboard, four buttons, and a large Samsung logo on top infringes the iPhone design patent. And yet, we were told (in the comments, on other sites) that the Samsung f700 was not prior art... Because it had a keyboard. I smell fish.
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Groklaw isn't exactly unbiased or objective.
by MollyC on Mon 27th Aug 2012 00:38 UTC
MollyC
Member since:
2006-07-04

It should be noted that Groklaw, Thom, other tech "savvy" geeks, are not unbiased and had a rooting objective in this matter. The jurors (if they were properly screened) did not have a rooting interest.

Therefore the jurors' opinion would be based on objective analysis while the tech geek peanut gallery opinions are generally not.

Personally, I don't trust jury decisions in technical matters and would prefer a panel of experts (though it would be harder to find a pool of objective experts than a pool of objective laypersons) or a group of philosopher kings. ;) But trashing the jurors for "inconsistencies" when they are objective and the critics are not seems wrong.

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TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

While groklaw's authors certainly do have opinions, they at least provide unedited documentation of the entire trial, both for Apple and Samsung. That makes them a excellent source of information. In addition, the foreman seems to have been anything but unbiased. He ruled for Apple the way he would want the court to rule in his favor over his patent. He also had a lot of influence on the outcome according to other jurors. Now samsung bears some blame for not dismissing him. But they also have a right to be judged by a unbiased group, no matter how many jurors they would have to dismiss.

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TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

You believe that with all of the evidence presented in the last few days by Groklaw and other news sources which interviewed the jurors that they were not in the least bit biased? You believe they are less so than 'experts' in the field? You believe that they and they alone have no biases and therefore you defer to their wisdom?

Seriously?

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