Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 27th Aug 2012 11:32 UTC
Google One company's response to the jury verdict in Apple vs. Samsung was still missing: Google's. The company has now responded to The Verge, and there's almost a certain bitterness in their language. Not, as you would expect, directed at Apple; no, the bitterness is directed at Samsung. The message Google is sending to other Android OEMs? Stick to stock Android, and you'll have no problems.
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RE[2]: That's not the way.
by Neolander on Tue 28th Aug 2012 08:30 UTC in reply to "RE: That's not the way."
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

Hardware manufacturers suck at software interface design, with the possible exception of Apple.

If anything, Apple nowadays are more of a software company which happens to build some hardware, like Microsoft, than a hardware company trying to get into software, like PC OEMs.

As far as I can tell, the last time they introduced a significant innovation in the realm of hardware design, rather than "stealing" or buying it, was with the iPod click wheel and the iMac G4 in the early 2000s. Nowadays, it seems to me that all they do in this realm is picking standard components on the market, sometimes buying a shiny extra from a smaller company that does actual hardware R&D, and then putting a pretty shell around the bunch.

On the few occasions where they still design something, like with their SoCs or the aforementioned casing, they do so in a very conservative way, with little bold moves (think Eee pad transformer, Galaxy Note, Xperia X10 Mini and Sola for examples of "risky" hardware design). And even then, they still manage to make beginner mistakes sometimes, like with the iPhone 4's unprotected glass panes and failing antennas.

No, really, if I were to find a good example of companies that are skilled at both hardware and software design, I would rather take a look at some of IBM's business offering (think AS/400, nowadays ironically called "i Series" if I'm not misunderstood). Sure, these are not designed to appeal to the general public, but for what they do, they provide an interesting example of a blend of clever software and hardware design, with lots of integration between both.

Edited 2012-08-28 08:31 UTC

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RE[3]: That's not the way.
by dsmogor on Tue 28th Aug 2012 12:26 in reply to "RE[2]: That's not the way."
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

> example of companies that are skilled at both hardware and software design

Sun, SGI, Bee, Palm, unfortunately ,they all have something in common.

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RE[4]: That's not the way.
by zima on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 15:55 in reply to "RE[3]: That's not the way."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm not sure if ~"let's make it as expensive as we can get away with" is a sign of skill in hardware design... (and Palm software was somewhat horrible ...at the same time very usable - it's fascinating that way, how they were able to be both - but still, also horrible)

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RE[3]: That's not the way.
by tidux on Wed 29th Aug 2012 14:25 in reply to "RE[2]: That's not the way."
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

I do love my G4 iMac. Who knows, maybe in the far off magical future of R2, I'll be able to use Haiku on it.

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RE[3]: That's not the way.
by zima on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 16:05 in reply to "RE[2]: That's not the way."
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

As far as I can tell, the last time they introduced a significant innovation in the realm of hardware design, rather than "stealing" or buying it, was with the iPod click wheel and the iMac G4 in the early 2000s.

Hm, and if we were to accept the rules of contemporary patent system (well, Apple does seem to subscribe to those rules...), iPod click wheel might be not a very clear-cut example ;) (the middle section)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPod#Patent_disputes

(plus, I suppose it might be seen as a natural evolution of "selection dials" placed on steering column, that some car radios had in the late 90s?)

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