Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 20:46 UTC
Linux "For years now, Linux has been a black sheep standing in the shadow of Apple and Microsoft. Despite having a fervent and enthusiastic following, the operating system hasn't been able to grab a sizable share of the computing market and has instead been content to subsist on the customers that come away dissatisfied with the mainstream competition. But that may be about to change. With the release of Microsoft Windows 8 on the horizon, some are saying Linux may have a great opportunity to steal a significant share of the market away from Microsoft, allowing it to finally take the helm as a major operating system service provider." This has to stop, and the only reason I'm linking to this nonsense is to make this very clear: Linux will not magically conquer the desktop or even make any significant gains because of Windows 8. People who don't like Windows 8 (Vista) will continue to use Windows 7 (Windows XP). This is getting so tiring. And does it even matter? Linux is winning big time in the mobile space, server space, and countless other spaces. The desktop is and always has been irrelevant to Linux.
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Yeah...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 03:41 UTC
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2006-12-05

Yeah, this is getting old. Another year, yet another shitty new Windows release, same old "year of Linux on the desktop" shit. The reality is, Linux is in an even worse position to "take over" Windows than it was in the Vista days. Why? GNOME 3. It's every bit of a turd as Metro (sorry, Microsoft--it's still Metro to me), and most of the major Linux distros are switching to it (the ones that haven't already). Those ones that use Cinnamon... well, it's a good idea in theory, but I can't be the only one who tried it and was seriously disappointed. It's just woefully incomplete. Hopefully this changes soon, but last time I checked it just wasn't worth using.

2006 was the year of Linux on *my* desktop, and it's going to remain that way.
2011 was the year of Linux in my pocket (Android cell phone), and that won't be changing any time soon either.

There will be no "year of Linux on the desktop." Use it on your own machines, hell, even recommend it to other people if you want and don't mind inevitably having to help solve computer problems and hear complaints because "it's not just like Windows"--the claim that there's going to be some kind of magic, mystical year that Linux is just going to explode in is extremely annoying. Really, that would be a bad thing--because it would undoubtedly mark "the year of malware on the Linux desktop." Maybe not nearly to the same extent as Microsoft's horribly-designed insecure family of operating systems, but it would inevitably start to become a larger problem.

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RE: Yeah...
by ze_jerkface on Wed 29th Aug 2012 05:03 in reply to "Yeah..."
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

as Microsoft's horribly-designed insecure family of operating systems, but it would inevitably start to become a larger problem.


This is getting old too.

Yes Microsoft at one point did not prioritize security.

But when it comes to web servers you are more likely to be hacked running Linux thanks to php exploits. Windows has malware problems but if you took away the clueless users the rate would drop.

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RE[2]: Yeah...
by Johann Chua on Wed 29th Aug 2012 05:20 in reply to "RE: Yeah..."
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2005-07-22

Because fixing server vulnerabilities is harder than educating regular users.

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RE[2]: Yeah...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 06:00 in reply to "RE: Yeah..."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

This is getting old too.

Yes it is, but so is going out and seeing nearly brand-new machines running the "latest and greatest" versions of Windows completely owned with malware of all kinds. So much for the forced PITA that was UAC, eh?

So yes, the "Windows is insecure" comments are getting old (I mean, come on--it's going to be going on fucking 2013), but it's still as true as it always has been, all the way up to Windows 7--and no doubt Windows 8 once Microsoft releases it into the wild.

I am still frequently reminded of this problem when I see other people's systems, whether I like it or not... and it would be nice if that wasn't the case. But it still is.

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