Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 20:46 UTC
Linux "For years now, Linux has been a black sheep standing in the shadow of Apple and Microsoft. Despite having a fervent and enthusiastic following, the operating system hasn't been able to grab a sizable share of the computing market and has instead been content to subsist on the customers that come away dissatisfied with the mainstream competition. But that may be about to change. With the release of Microsoft Windows 8 on the horizon, some are saying Linux may have a great opportunity to steal a significant share of the market away from Microsoft, allowing it to finally take the helm as a major operating system service provider." This has to stop, and the only reason I'm linking to this nonsense is to make this very clear: Linux will not magically conquer the desktop or even make any significant gains because of Windows 8. People who don't like Windows 8 (Vista) will continue to use Windows 7 (Windows XP). This is getting so tiring. And does it even matter? Linux is winning big time in the mobile space, server space, and countless other spaces. The desktop is and always has been irrelevant to Linux.
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RE: Yeah...
by ze_jerkface on Wed 29th Aug 2012 05:03 UTC in reply to "Yeah..."
ze_jerkface
Member since:
2012-06-22

as Microsoft's horribly-designed insecure family of operating systems, but it would inevitably start to become a larger problem.


This is getting old too.

Yes Microsoft at one point did not prioritize security.

But when it comes to web servers you are more likely to be hacked running Linux thanks to php exploits. Windows has malware problems but if you took away the clueless users the rate would drop.

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RE[2]: Yeah...
by Johann Chua on Wed 29th Aug 2012 05:20 in reply to "RE: Yeah..."
Johann Chua Member since:
2005-07-22

Because fixing server vulnerabilities is harder than educating regular users.

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RE[2]: Yeah...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 06:00 in reply to "RE: Yeah..."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

This is getting old too.

Yes it is, but so is going out and seeing nearly brand-new machines running the "latest and greatest" versions of Windows completely owned with malware of all kinds. So much for the forced PITA that was UAC, eh?

So yes, the "Windows is insecure" comments are getting old (I mean, come on--it's going to be going on fucking 2013), but it's still as true as it always has been, all the way up to Windows 7--and no doubt Windows 8 once Microsoft releases it into the wild.

I am still frequently reminded of this problem when I see other people's systems, whether I like it or not... and it would be nice if that wasn't the case. But it still is.

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RE[3]: Yeah...
by lucas_maximus on Wed 29th Aug 2012 07:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah..."
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Sorry but the only easy way for a Modern Windows machine to get infected is to run an executable from an untrusted source as Administrator.

Believe it or not this would work perfectly fine on Linux and MacOSX.

Windows is not insecure, hasn't been since Windows XP SP2.

UAC is not different than the sudo command.

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RE[3]: Yeah...
by ze_jerkface on Wed 29th Aug 2012 09:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah..."
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22


I am still frequently reminded of this problem when I see other people's systems, whether I like it or not... and it would be nice if that wasn't the case. But it still is.


Why are you certain that the problem is the system and not the people? Where I work we don't have a problem with malware even though there are thousands of Windows desktops connected to the internet. It just doesn't happen.

I sometimes work with wordpress on Linux servers and you have to be continually vigilant as it and its plug-ins are often targets of attack. But since I'm not using Windows shouldn't I be safer? The opposite is actually true since most exploits are going after a lamp combination. We only use Linux servers because so many plug-ins aren't supported in Windows.

Security is far more complex than 'just use Linux'.

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