Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 20:46 UTC
Linux "For years now, Linux has been a black sheep standing in the shadow of Apple and Microsoft. Despite having a fervent and enthusiastic following, the operating system hasn't been able to grab a sizable share of the computing market and has instead been content to subsist on the customers that come away dissatisfied with the mainstream competition. But that may be about to change. With the release of Microsoft Windows 8 on the horizon, some are saying Linux may have a great opportunity to steal a significant share of the market away from Microsoft, allowing it to finally take the helm as a major operating system service provider." This has to stop, and the only reason I'm linking to this nonsense is to make this very clear: Linux will not magically conquer the desktop or even make any significant gains because of Windows 8. People who don't like Windows 8 (Vista) will continue to use Windows 7 (Windows XP). This is getting so tiring. And does it even matter? Linux is winning big time in the mobile space, server space, and countless other spaces. The desktop is and always has been irrelevant to Linux.
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RE[3]: Yeah...
by ze_jerkface on Wed 29th Aug 2012 09:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Yeah..."
ze_jerkface
Member since:
2012-06-22


I am still frequently reminded of this problem when I see other people's systems, whether I like it or not... and it would be nice if that wasn't the case. But it still is.


Why are you certain that the problem is the system and not the people? Where I work we don't have a problem with malware even though there are thousands of Windows desktops connected to the internet. It just doesn't happen.

I sometimes work with wordpress on Linux servers and you have to be continually vigilant as it and its plug-ins are often targets of attack. But since I'm not using Windows shouldn't I be safer? The opposite is actually true since most exploits are going after a lamp combination. We only use Linux servers because so many plug-ins aren't supported in Windows.

Security is far more complex than 'just use Linux'.

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RE[4]: Yeah...
by UltraZelda64 on Wed 29th Aug 2012 10:49 in reply to "RE[3]: Yeah..."
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Windows (and Microsoft) encourages dumb users and clicking random shit. It's in their whole design. Encourage those two things in the design of your OS, and you're just asking for trouble. I don't recall ever saying that the users have nothing to do with it--they do--but the design of Windows sure as hell doesn't help.

Congrats, you work in a place where people have more common sense than average when using computers, and your company probably has each system further locked down much more than a typical computer would be straight from the OEM.

As for a LAMP setup being subject to attack--NOOO, REALLY?!? Who would've guessed a *server* of all things would be vulnerable to attack. I'm astounded.

[Note: Make sure your sarcasm detector is working for that last bit.]

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RE[5]: Yeah...
by ze_jerkface on Wed 29th Aug 2012 16:45 in reply to "RE[4]: Yeah..."
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Windows (and Microsoft) encourages dumb users and clicking random shit. It's in their whole design.


What part of system is forcing people to click on freelohanporn.exe?

and your company probably has each system further locked down much more than a typical computer would be straight from the OEM.


That is entirely it, most users have to request to have anything installed. If everyone ran Linux and wanted as much access to third party software the same problem would exist.


As for a LAMP setup being subject to attack--NOOO, REALLY?!? Who would've guessed a *server* of all things would be vulnerable to attack. I'm astounded.

[Note: Make sure your sarcasm detector is working for that last bit.]


You'd be surprised, Linux fans for the most part have decided that Linux is always the better choice for security and that Windows has an evil ghost in the machine.

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