Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 28th Aug 2012 20:46 UTC
Linux "For years now, Linux has been a black sheep standing in the shadow of Apple and Microsoft. Despite having a fervent and enthusiastic following, the operating system hasn't been able to grab a sizable share of the computing market and has instead been content to subsist on the customers that come away dissatisfied with the mainstream competition. But that may be about to change. With the release of Microsoft Windows 8 on the horizon, some are saying Linux may have a great opportunity to steal a significant share of the market away from Microsoft, allowing it to finally take the helm as a major operating system service provider." This has to stop, and the only reason I'm linking to this nonsense is to make this very clear: Linux will not magically conquer the desktop or even make any significant gains because of Windows 8. People who don't like Windows 8 (Vista) will continue to use Windows 7 (Windows XP). This is getting so tiring. And does it even matter? Linux is winning big time in the mobile space, server space, and countless other spaces. The desktop is and always has been irrelevant to Linux.
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Valhalla
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2006-01-24


The "screw what manufacturers want" side has clearly won, Linux has had a whopping 0% increase on the desktop from 10 years ago and everyone still complains about video drivers.

Hah, what bullshit, Linux has gained very little on the desktop but that has nothing to do with lack of proprietary video drivers.

It HAS proprietary video drivers, NVidia keeps their Linux drivers up to spec with the Windows drivers, not because they want to cater to Linux desktop user needs but because Linux is HUGE in 3D/SFX and absolutely dominant in HPC and these are the markets discrete GPU vendors on Linux are catering for.

Discrete graphics from NVidia is pretty much the only holdout there is anymore, and discrete graphics is obviously being obsoleted on the desktop favour of gpgpu solutions like the offerings from Intel and AMD (fully open source offerings) for anyone but hardcore gamers and professionals in 3D/CAD.

So yes, 'screw proprietary drivers' side is definately winning.

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ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22


Hah, what bullshit, Linux has gained very little on the desktop but that has nothing to do with lack of proprietary video drivers.


I'm not talking about just video drivers.

The userspace api came out in 2007 which was way too late.

It's hard to say which factor sunk Linux on the desktop the most but the middle finger to hardware manufacturers didn't help. Linux needed to be amicable to third parties of all types when there was more demand for an alternative. As for winning I don't see how locked down Android devices with drivers useless to other devices is a win. Linux easily could have taken more share if it wasn't the stubborn open source nerd's OS. But that's what Linus wanted and he didn't care if Windows kept the desktop market.

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Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24


I'm not talking about just video drivers.

What drivers are you talking about then, specifically?


It's hard to say which factor sunk Linux on the desktop the most but the middle finger to hardware manufacturers didn't help.

Again what is this problem with hardware compability you are claiming exists?


As for winning I don't see how locked down Android devices with drivers useless to other devices is a win.

What does the extremely limited amount of drivers in Android have to do with Linux open source driver availability at large (which is fantastic)?


But that's what Linus wanted and he didn't care if Windows kept the desktop market.

Drivers are not holding Linux back, it could have every driver in existance and there still wouldn't be any real incentive for the average computer user to leave Windows on the desktop.

Not even Apple which has done massive advertising and product placement (apple logo visible in every laptop in every tv show), shiny design, being hip, has been able to make a real dent in Microsoft's desktop dominance. And they certainly have no driver problems either given that they only support their own very meagre hardware spectrum.

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