Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Aug 2012 22:52 UTC
Linux Miguel de Icaza: "To sum up: (a) First dimension: things change too quickly, breaking both open source and proprietary software alike; (b) incompatibility across Linux distributions. This killed the ecosystem for third party developers trying to target Linux on the desktop. You would try once, do your best effort to support the 'top' distro or if you were feeling generous 'the top three' distros. Only to find out that your software no longer worked six months later. Supporting Linux on the desktop became a burden for independent developers." Mac OS X came along to scoop up the Linux defectors.
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Pretty alive, thanks
by Nth_Man on Wed 29th Aug 2012 23:36 UTC
Nth_Man
Member since:
2010-05-16

> What killed the Linux desktop
To be killed, it's pretty alive on my desktop. Thanks for your interest, Icaza :-)

What we don't know if it was killed it was Icaza's interest in working at Microsoft after he was rejected, like Moondevil wrote:

Miguel de Icaza was rejected to work at Microsoft, before he turned its attention to Linux.

Most of the projects he touched were clones of Microsoft technology.

Bonobo: COM implemented with CORBA
Evolution: Outlook
Mono: .Net
Moonlight: Silverligt

It is as like he has been trying to compensate for the fact he was not been taken by them.

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RE: Pretty alive, thanks
by Hiev on Wed 29th Aug 2012 23:39 in reply to "Pretty alive, thanks"
Hiev Member since:
2005-09-27

I think he answered your question from his website:

I have never received a payment from Microsoft or Apple. If anything, I keep giving both money for their products.

No religious/hard-line/extremist group likes introspective criticism or anything that contradicts their long held beliefs. So the only possible explanation that you guys can muster is "how much does Microsoft pay you".


And btw, he was named MVP by MS, so is not like MS didn't want him.

Edited 2012-08-29 23:48 UTC

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RE[2]: Pretty alive, thanks
by Nth_Man on Wed 29th Aug 2012 23:53 in reply to "RE: Pretty alive, thanks"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

> I have never received a payment
I was talking about an interest, I didn't said that he was being paid.

> he was named [...] so is not like MS didn't want him.
After the services that were done, they could name him "valuable", it doesn't take much money, of course :-) . A different thing is being paid every month for working there.

Edited 2012-08-30 00:08 UTC

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RE: Pretty alive, thanks
by tylerdurden on Thu 30th Aug 2012 00:28 in reply to "Pretty alive, thanks"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Given your ad hominem, I take you don't have a proper retort to the points that he raised, right?

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RE[2]: Pretty alive, thanks
by Nth_Man on Thu 30th Aug 2012 00:54 in reply to "RE: Pretty alive, thanks"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

I've used Kubuntu for years, and it isn't broken like he says. Software is being developed and working, unlike he says.

And then I find a "What killed the Linux desktop". What am I writing this with, then? :-)

Notes: I don't update from one version of Kubuntu to another, I do clean new installs. About programs that don't work as a "service": I read what programs are going to be updated, I close them and I update.

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RE: Pretty alive, thanks
by Phucked on Thu 30th Aug 2012 12:50 in reply to "Pretty alive, thanks"
Phucked Member since:
2008-09-24

Aye Miguel sucks at the tit of Microsoft, if anything killed Linux on the desktop it was him.

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RE: Pretty alive, thanks
by ebasconp on Thu 30th Aug 2012 20:37 in reply to "Pretty alive, thanks"
ebasconp Member since:
2006-05-09

You forgot he was a founder of Gnome, Gnumeric and the main dev of midnight commander; none of them related to MS.

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RE[2]: Pretty alive, thanks
by Nth_Man on Fri 31st Aug 2012 06:24 in reply to "RE: Pretty alive, thanks"
Nth_Man Member since:
2010-05-16

Gnumeric had a lot of resemblance to Excel :-). Gnome 1 to Windows 95 http://www.linuxinsight.com/files/images/gnome_old.png . Anyway, Moondevil wrote "Most of", not "all".

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