Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 26th Aug 2012 10:28 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless In light of the jury verdict in Apple vs. Samsung, the one-liners and jokes flew back and forth. One in particular, by Dan Frakes, has been copied and pasted all over the web, and it goes like this: "When the iPhone debuted, it was widely criticized for having no buttons/keys. Now people think the iPhone's design is 'obvious'." This is a very common trend in this entire debate that saddens me to no end: the iPhone is being compared to simple feature phones, while in fact, it should be compared to its true predecessor: the PDA. PDAs have always done with few buttons.
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RE[9]: Reaching
by BallmerKnowsBest on Thu 30th Aug 2012 05:04 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Reaching"
BallmerKnowsBest
Member since:
2008-06-02

You must be kidding! In reality the only people who know or even care about what a PDA is, are you old ass people on here who are whining about Apple.

The rest of the world could give two shits.


It must be awesome to unaware of even the recent history of today's technology, I bet everything seems like some new and amazing innovation to you. Hey, check this cool new thing called "IRC" - it's like Twitter... but in real-time!!!

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RE[10]: Reaching
by Windows Sucks on Thu 30th Aug 2012 10:40 in reply to "RE[9]: Reaching"
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2005-11-10

[q]It must be awesome to unaware of even the recent history of today's technology, I bet everything seems like some new and amazing innovation to you. Hey, check this cool new thing called "IRC" - it's like Twitter... but in real-time!!!


See first off who says I don't know. Knowing and caring are two different things. On top of that I am not talking about me. I am talking about the average user. The normal person who of you say IRC to them they will look at you confused. The average person who has only known Apple and Microsoft for most of their life. Not tech people.

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RE[11]: Reaching
by TM99 on Thu 30th Aug 2012 11:41 in reply to "RE[10]: Reaching"
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2012-08-26

See first off who says I don't know. Knowing and caring are two different things. On top of that I am not talking about me. I am talking about the average user. The normal person who of you say IRC to them they will look at you confused. The average person who has only known Apple and Microsoft for most of their life. Not tech people.


You don't act like you know so it appears to be the same thing. And while you and your generation apparently don't care, my generation does. Cut that bull about the 'average' user. Yeah, perhaps in your generation this is now true. An entire swash of people who grew up taking it all for granted and not knowing a damned thing about computing technology unless you were a techie.

Well, newsflash son, my generation grew up with all of this from the earliest home computers to the PDA to the smartphone to the iPhone. We have watched companies come and go. We know what IRC is. What know what BBS's were. We aren't all techies either. But we know how to use our computers, and many of us know how to program them. Or at the very least we know what it means to program them. When we went to school, we got classes in programming not using applications alone. The average user of my generation is around computing everyday, and we do care about the current trend of forgetting or rewriting our most recent past. We are doctors, psychologists, economists, professors, historians, etc. Technology helps us do our jobs more efficiently and more smoothly. I like knowing how to write my own statistical analysis programs in R, and I know many other non IT men and women in my professional sphere that feel the same way.

The worse irony is that the two company's in the US that are now the dominant market leaders started with the idea of giving the hardware and software to the masses. Microsoft and Apple wanted the general populace to have the freedom that was not available when academia and government alone controlled the tech. And yet now, they and your generation in its ignorance and desire for 'invisibility to be the goal' of computing, want to return us to that world once more. This is a world where gatekeepers and a techno-priesthood control the hardware, the OS, the applications, and your data in a nice little walled-garden.

Perhaps it takes someone like me not inside the tech field proper to see this more clearly than some of you who actually believe you are or will become that priesthood. Having been a part of the Apple developer program for years just for my work and personal interest, I eventually left because of how draconian they have become with their walled-garden of protection for the masses they now want to control. No thank you.

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RE[11]: Reaching
by BallmerKnowsBest on Fri 31st Aug 2012 18:46 in reply to "RE[10]: Reaching"
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2008-06-02

See first off who says I don't know. Knowing and caring are two different things. On top of that I am not talking about me. I am talking about the average user. The normal person who of you say IRC to them they will look at you confused. The average person who has only known Apple and Microsoft for most of their life. Not tech people.


Wow, that has to be the most excruciatingly verbose statement of the "appeal to popularity/majority" fallacy that I have ever read.

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