Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Aug 2012 09:16 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems Just driving yesterday's point home some more: "The Lilith was one of the first computer workstations worldwide with a high-resolution graphical display and a mouse. The first prototype was developed by Niklaus Wirth and his group between 1978 and 1980 with Richard Ohran as the hardware specialist. [...] The whole system software of the Lilith was written in Modula-2, a structured programming language which Wirth has developed at the same time. The programs were compiled into low-level M-Code instructions which could be executed by the hardware. The user interface was designed with windows, icons and pop-up menus. Compared with the character based systems available at that time, these were revolutionary metaphors in the interaction with a computer." Jos Dreesen, owner of one of the few remaining working Liliths, wrote a Lilith emulator for Linux.
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RE[2]: What this reminds me of
by Tony Swash on Thu 30th Aug 2012 19:12 UTC in reply to "RE: What this reminds me of"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

It's possible I'm misinterpreting your post, but it seems sad to me that the vast contribution that so many people have made to the sum of human knowledge can be brushed aside so casually.


I think you may be responding to a point I was not making. I was critiquing the Apple haters and iPhobes.

There seems to be a desperate obsession by many commentators here, often including Thom I have to say, who to try to pretend that Apple's contribution to the development of the development of the PC, the smart phone, the tablet computer are all relatively insignificant. A constantly repeated attempts to argue that the Mac OS, the iPhone and the iPad were not inflection points. Some go as far as to argue that Apple's contribution to the development of PCs, phones and tablets (as well as music players, online software and digital content distribution systems) are at best copies and at worst just copies wrapped in good marketing and a zombie like cultish group of deranged followers.

To those who are propose such silly absurdities I say shame on you. Not just for arguing the patently absurd, not just for trying to distort the history of technology but also for parading in public such a weird obsessive need to belittle one of the worlds great technology companies.

What is wrong with you people?

You claim to like technology but you hate one of the giants of technology. And for why? because they didn't die, they didn't fade away, instead they came back, and by being boldly innovative, in a matter of a few years boldly entered and utterly disrupted three entirely new markets and in the process gutted the old Microsoft hegemony and became the world's largest technology company. And that sticks in a lot of people's throats, that pisses off some people because it's not how the script was supposed to play out.

So we get this endless, tedious, juvenile, degrading parade of delusions whose sole purpose is to cut Apple down to size.

It's not that Apple has grown too large.

It's you who insist on being so small.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

There seems to be a desperate obsession by many commentators here, often including Thom I have to say, who to try to pretend that Apple's contribution to the development of the development of the PC, the smart phone, the tablet computer are all relatively insignificant


The crux of why your posts are often downright absurd: I never claimed anything like this ever. This is a huge strawman, and everything else you write hinges around this false assumption.

Here's the introduction to my article on the iPhone turning five:

Exactly five years ago today, Apple officially released its entry into the mobile phone market, the iPhone. Immediately loved by customers the world over, ridiculed by the competition, and, in my book, not particularly innovative feature-wise, it changed the mobile phone industry virtually overnight. Love the iPhone or hate the iPhone, its industry-changing impact is evident.


See how that doesn't jive AT ALL with the imagery you conjure up inside your head?

I've told you this before, but you are clearly suffering from a MASSIVE case of cognitive dissonance. You have this image of me and several other commenters in your head of being anti-Apple, and this image is so strong and important to you that any evidence to the contrary causes massive cognitive dissonance in your mind. As such, your brain needs to deal with this - and instead of opting to adjust your world view (the hardest and most physically and emotionally intensive solution) you simply ignore the new evidence.

This is all very classic and basic psychology. Fascinating, but a bit disturbing, to boot.

Edited 2012-08-30 19:30 UTC

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RE[3]: What this reminds me of
by flypig on Thu 30th Aug 2012 19:58 in reply to "RE[2]: What this reminds me of"
flypig Member since:
2005-07-13

"It's possible I'm misinterpreting your post, but it seems sad to me that the vast contribution that so many people have made to the sum of human knowledge can be brushed aside so casually.


I think you may be responding to a point I was not making. I was critiquing the Apple haters and iPhobes.
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Fair enough; I certainly don't want to misrepresent what you were saying.

However, in attacking the "Apple haters and iPhobes" I think it's really important not to belittle the contribution that others have played in the development of technology.

This stands on its own, but additional to this is that ignoring others unnecessarily fuels the argument against. Apple have made genuine and important contributions, so there should be no need for the similarly valid contributions of others to be underplayed in order for Apple's importance to be made clear.

I'm sorry if this wasn't what you intended, and for misreading your post.

Separate to this is the fact that the article about the Lilith and earlier article on multi-touch were absolutely fascinating in my view, so I'm glad they were posted.

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