Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 09:07 UTC
Microsoft "Microsoft this week updated its services agreement with subtle, yet potentially significant changes to its policy on privacy and dispute settlement. The company notified users of the changes in an e-mail sent Friday, informing them that the new Terms of Service would go into effect on October 19th. Apparently taking its cue from Google, Microsoft's revised policy allows the company to access and display user content across all of its cloud properties." Microsoft said, when Google announced an identical policy change: "Google is in the midst of making some unpopular changes to some of their most popular products. Those changes, cloaked in language like 'transparency', 'simplicity', and 'consistency', are really about one thing: making it easier for Google to connect the dots between everything you search, send, say or stream while using one of their services." Let me guess: no outraged blog posts from the usual suspects this time around.
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by kurkosdr on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 09:59 UTC
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"that make me glad I don't mix my RL, with my online persona in any meaningful way."

They have a fix for that: Want to buy some apps from our Market? We need you credit card. Now they have you (even prepaid credit cards have real names).

Then there are always carriers that will happily hand over details if it's for their benefit.

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by Lennie on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 16:44 in reply to "Re:"
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That is exactly why I've been able to stay away from this, by not getting an Android phone.

It is currently one of the only two reasons I don't use/have an Android phone right now. All the other problems are fixed.

The release of Jelly Bean was the last round that solved some of the previous reasons.

I want to love Google, but they are and always will be privacy problem waiting to happen.

They even offered me a job, I could probably be making more money and have a bigger house or do even more technically interresting work.

But this was one of the reasons I didn't talk to them.

I think free services sponsored by advertising is a great thing. Websites like OSNews for example are great.

I even run a website is sponsored by advertising. Alexa claims OSNews is in the top 30,000 most populair websites worldwide, our site is in the top 40,000.

But I don't want my data analyzed. Google already does that when I do a Google search, but at least that is some what anonymous.

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by Alfman on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 19:35 in reply to "Re:"
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"even prepaid credit cards have real names"

I've used some prepaid credit cards, you can buy them as gift certificates over the counter without any questions... Admittedly the last time I used one was in high school, so I guess it's possible that the patriot act has since outlawed untraceable cards?

More to the point of the topic though, google stores a tremendous amount of indirect personal data. The geolocation service built into firefox 3.5 sends google data any time ANY WEBSITE invokes a geolocation query.

"Firefox 3.5 includes support for locating you based on your WiFi information using Google Location Services. In the transaction between Firefox 3.5 and Google, data is exchanged including WiFi Access Point data, an access token (similar to a 2 week cookie), and the user's IP address."

In theory, it would be feasible for google to invoke the firefox geolocation API programmatically from their own google analytics and adsense services deployed throughout the web and view the user's proximity to specific WiFi access points.

Opinions may differ as to whether this is a valid privacy concern, however one thing is certain, most users are not aware of how they're being tracked by google even on 3rd party sites (like osnews).

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