Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 00:39 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Hardware, Embedded Systems "Efforts are split between models in which keyboards detach from screens, ones in which the keys remain attached but can be hidden behind displays, and traditional fixed clamshell designs." None of these really float my boat. They work with clunky connectors and weird hinges, while I'd much rather have Surface's nice magnetic connection. On top of that, Surface just looks way better than this stuff. Pretty clear why Microsoft felt the need to make their own hardware.
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RE[2]: piss poor design
by bassbeast on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 10:00 UTC in reply to "RE: piss poor design"
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The reason how this got past usability testing is simple friend...the X86 PC is flatline and frankly its gonna STAY flatline because once we hit multicores PCs went way past good enough and are into insanely overpowered. This means that the PC will be like a washer and dryer, only replaced when it dies.

Meanwhile the ARM tablet is undergoing its own MHz race just as PCs did in the 90s and MSFT has pretty much ZERO percentage of that market, same goes for ARM cellphones. So Ballmer is throwing the Hail Mary and praying to every Deity in the book that he can gain some share.

Whether it will work or not I guess will depend on how much money Ballmer is willing to flush, if he sells iPad specced hardware at Kindle prices? he might be able to buy some share and hope it gets made up on the appstore. I think it will bomb on the X86 though, most likely it'll be like Vista where the OEMs offer you a "Windows 8 system" with Win 7 and a DVD in the bottom of the box nobody uses.

But I do feel sorry for the OEMs though, knowing just like Vista MSFT won't let them sell Win 7 PCs until the sales take a dive like with Vista and in a bad economy having 6 months of no sales is gonna seriously hurt.

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RE[3]: piss poor design
by UltraZelda64 on Mon 3rd Sep 2012 19:16 in reply to "RE[2]: piss poor design"
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The difference is, a quality washer or dryer can potentially last at least 15-20 years or longer with maintenance. Windows, the operating system almost exclusively sold with PCs, typically gets infections galore and eventually takes a shit within maybe 3-5 years (and I'm being generous). Quite often, people think the PC is then junk, and that it's either not worth the time, trouble and money repairing, or just not possible. And then there are those people who have become pissed off with their entire computer over how badly Windows is running, they give up on the whole machine, and even if they're told it could be fixed they'd rather just trash it and get a new one.

I've used a 2001 Gateway with a 1.7GHz P4 and only 256MB RAM (RD-RAM--rare, expensive and not worth the price to upgrade) for over a decade before giving up on it, but trust me, that thing could be a supercomputer running Windows out of the box and many people would get rid of it for something new after once or twice getting infected, and experiencing the poor performance, pop-ups, errors and blue screens.

Also, I wouldn't say that computers are "insanely overpowered." With all the bloated operating systems being released these days under the assumption that the user will have a fast processor, loads of RAM, and even hardware accelerated, power is just as important as it's always been if you care about performance. It's just that these days, you don't have to think as hard or spend as much money to get something decent. You don't really think hardware is getting many times faster while software remains exactly the same in terms of speed and efficiency, do you?

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RE[4]: piss poor design
by bassbeast on Wed 5th Sep 2012 05:26 in reply to "RE[3]: piss poor design"
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Friend the PCs I was selling 5 years ago were Phenom I X4s and Core Duos with 4Gb of RAM. Tell me what could you not run easily on that? Heck i have businesses on Phenom X2s and Core Duos and they are quite happy and have no intention of replacing anytime soon.

And all it takes to keep a machine clean since Vista is any of the good free AVs and a teeny tiny bit of common sense. It usually takes me less than 30 minutes to teach a customer on Win 7 everything they need to know to keep the system clean.

And sorry you got stuck with RDRAM but I saw the writing on the wall and avoided that garbage. I've also made sure my systems for the last 7 years can hold at least 4Gb of RAM and with any multicore that is more than enough to run anything the average user wants to use.

Oh and I know all about old gear, I use a Sempron 1.8GHz from 2004 as a nettop in my shop, with 2Gb of RAM and XP it surfs just fine. Already have 7 in a dual boot and it runs just fine on that system OOTB, it even has Aero since I added an old Geforce card I had laying around.

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