Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Sep 2012 02:09 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Mozilla & Gecko clones "The smartphones going into the world's next two billion pairs of hands may not belong to either Google or Apple, but to Mozilla. The Mozilla Foundation, which oversees open source software projects like the Firefox Web browser, expects to release a mobile operating system for smartphones early next year. Its target market is Latin America, then the rest of the developing world, where smartphones from Apple and Google are still too expensive for most people." Let's hope so, because at the rate things are currently going, we'll end up with like 90% Android, 9% iOS, and 1% other stuff. Who wants that?
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RE[2]: Who wants that?
by bassbeast on Sat 8th Sep 2012 11:23 UTC in reply to "RE: Who wants that?"
bassbeast
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2007-11-11

I hate to break the news to ya, but Android DOES infringe, and so does Linux. How do I know? Because the US patent office has been handing out insanely vague patents and more importantly upholding them, that's how.

You really do have to give MS credit, they played the game VERY well. they filed pile after pile of patents, and they knew the one company who might have more in mobile was Apple so they signed a cross licensing agreement with them that took them out of the game. Made great sense for Apple as well because MS has always been a low margin high volume seller, which is a market Apple doesn't care about, and both Apple and MS want Android to DIAF, since both sell products while Google sells eyeballs.

But as we saw with the FAT patents they can stick it to any bunch at any time, FOSS or not, because they literally have mountains of patents and the competition don't. Why do you think Google won't indemnify those that use Android? because MS would love a crack at Google's big fat wallet and with as many patents as they have they could easily get a half dozen or more to stick.

So like 'em or hate 'em give them credit, they've set it up so no matter whose product is on the phone they STILL get paid.

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RE[3]: Who wants that?
by sparkyERTW on Mon 10th Sep 2012 14:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Who wants that?"
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2010-06-09

I hate to break the news to ya, but Android DOES infringe, and so does Linux. How do I know? Because the US patent office has been handing out insanely vague patents and more importantly upholding them, that's how.


No, you don't know; you're making an assumption based on deductive logic. A reasonable and likely accurate assumption nonetheless, but still an assumption (and let me point out I'm not saying this stuff to berate you, I'm just setting up a point).

This is a big part of the problem; towering giants like Microsoft are allowed to throw around claims of infringement without having to provide any substantial evidence. Somehow this is perfectly fine. If I made the public statement "LG microwaves are shown to give babies cancer" without a shred of evidence, LG could sue me for libel. Yet MS/Apple claiming thievery is perfectly acceptable as long as they point to a mountainous landscape of paperwork behind them and say, "See all that? Clearly we have it in there somewhere... 'it' being the thing we're claiming you stole... which we're not going to name."

How crap like this doesn't fall under libel, extortion, etc., I have no idea.

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RE[4]: Who wants that?
by bassbeast on Mon 10th Sep 2012 23:46 in reply to "RE[3]: Who wants that?"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

You are talking about a company with a minimum of 30,000+ patents, the way they've been filing if they have less than 200,000 on file I'd be amazed. Now when you look at the numbers and also look at how horribly vague the USPTO has allowed patents to be for the last 20+ years?

Your argument is like saying "Well just because you have a quad 50 cal with 10,000 rounds doesn't mean I can't walk across the street without you hitting me" which theoretically may be true...theoretically. But if I was your family I'd be picking out the casket and if you go up against a company the size of MS with a patent warchest from hell? Well i hope you have a seriously fat wallet friend, because you'd have better odds of winning the powerball than getting out of there scott free, just ask TomTom.

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