Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 8th Sep 2012 11:58 UTC
"While Apple's technology is a 'very nice invention', the technique used in Android differs from the iOS solution, argued Bas Berghuis van Woortman, one of Samsung's lawyers. Because the Android based method is more hierarchical the system is more complex and therefore harder for developers to use, he said. [...] Apple disagrees. 'They suggest that they have a lesser solution, but that is simply not true', said Apple's lawyer Theo Blomme to judge Peter Blok, who presided over a team of three judges, in a response to Samsung's claim." I just wish these companies and their lawyers could see and hear themselves. If only for a few seconds. Not even Monty Python could write this. By the way, all these patents were already thrown out last year by the Dutch courts, but Apple started a 'bottom procedure', a more thorough handling of the case. Three expert IP judges preside, and due to the earlier ruling, Apple is fighting an uphill battle.
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RE[7]: The patent troll apple again
by MOS6510 on Sun 9th Sep 2012 09:06
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I agree, but that's a whole different subject. This is about Samsung yet again copying Apple stuff. It's becoming hard to sum up all the stuff they copied without leaving something out.
Samsung copies Apple and sells a lot of stuff, Nokia (and RIM) doesn't copy and doesn't sell lots.
This makes me wonder why people claim the Apple vs Samsung verdict is bad for customer choice and innovation. If companies kept on copying Apple we'd end up with iPhones and iPhone look-a-likes. Nokia, who does offer a good and different product, doesn't even get a chance to show its goods because everybody wants an iPhone or something that looks like it.
RE[8]: The patent troll apple again
by WereCatf on Sun 9th Sep 2012 09:11
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RE[8]: The patent troll apple again
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 9th Sep 2012 10:09
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Member since:2005-06-29
Nokia, who does offer a good and different product
That's the problem here. The jury in the US ruled that Samsung phones with keyboards and phones with like 5 weirdly arranged buttons below the screen infringed iPhone *design* patents. If those phones infringe, then sure AS HELL Nokia's Lumias would have been found infringing as well, had they been part of the case.
Many people seem to think this is only about the Galaxy Ace - it's not. A whole sew of CLEARLY different devices were found infringing on design patents, and arguing that's okay is arguing nobody should be allowed to compete with Apple at all.
RE[8]: The patent troll apple again
by thavith_osn on Sun 9th Sep 2012 11:38
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RE[8]: The patent troll apple again
by _xmv on Sun 9th Sep 2012 23:10
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Member since:2008-12-09
Samsung copies Apple and sells a lot of stuff, Nokia (and RIM) doesn't copy and doesn't sell lots.
This makes me wonder why people claim the Apple vs Samsung verdict is bad
when HTC was selling a lot, Apple was suying HTC.
Now Samsung beat HTC to that and got sued by apple
I guess the Nexus One looked like an iphone to you?
RE[8]: The patent troll apple again
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 10th Sep 2012 21:05
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Member since:2008-06-02
This makes me wonder why people claim the Apple vs Samsung verdict is bad for customer choice and innovation.
Let me see if I understand correctly... if a company sells a "copy" that's comparable to a more expensive product, then in your mind that's bad for consumer choice? And to you, being able to produce a product that's comparable to a competitors (but less expensive) isn't innovative? So rounded corners on a rectangle are innovative, but more efficient manufacturing processes aren't?
Even if everyone followed your example & blindly accepted the notion that Samsung does nothing but copy Apple, then you still have to ignore all of those details to conclude that it has no possible benefits for consumer choice.
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/21/13 21:38 UTC
At an event earlier today, Microsoft unveiled the next Xbox - the third model, but confusingly named Xbox One. The big focus was TV, integrated Kinect, and all the other stuff we all expected to be forced down our throats. I think it took them 25 minutes to actually come to what should be the core of the story: gaming. Nothing groundbreaking in the gaming department, except for how Microsoft intends to handle the used games market and borrowing games from friends: pay up, buddy!
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/20/13 11:29 UTC
The day has finally come! Jolla has finally announced the launch device for its Sailfish operating system - and by god this is a looker. It's decidedly different from other phones out there, but it has good specifications and carries a relatively reasonably price tag - EUR 399, and it's up for pre-order today, shipping in the fourth quarter of this year.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/18/13 21:33 UTC
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/11/13 21:41 UTC
"Windows is indeed slower than other operating systems in many scenarios, and the gap is worsening." That's one way to start an insider explanation of why Windows' performance isn't up to snuff. Written by someone who actually contributes code to the Windows NT kernel, the comment on Hacker News, later deleted but reposted with permission on Marc Bevand's blog, paints a very dreary picture of the state of Windows development. The root issue? Think of how Linux is developed, and you'll know the answer.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/08/13 14:22 UTC
This is one of those news items that's fun to write, fun to read, fun to comment on, and where no one will be able to say anything unkind. It's all just one big ball of awesome fluffiness. TuneTracker, the BeOS radio automation software, has just released something very special: TuneTracker System 5, the first version designed entirely and specifically for Haiku. In fact, it actually includes Haiku in the software package. Better yet, TuneTracker also unveiled several system-in-a-box products - which have Haiku and TuneTracker pre-installed.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/02/13 15:28 UTC
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 04/29/13 21:06 UTC
Oh multitasking. That staple of computing that got thrown out the window with many modern smartphones. We got some rudimentary thing in its place - but even as multitasking on phone and tablets improves, its user-visible side remains cumbersome. Windows 8 has a neat implementation, and now it's time Android follows in it footsteps.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 04/24/13 22:24 UTC
They're here! Whether that excites you or not remains to be seen, but the Galaxy S4, which will most likely become the best selling Android smartphone of the year by a huge margin, has been reviewed by all the major sites, and there's lots of interesting conclusions in there - although I think most of you will get the gist.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 04/18/13 11:21 UTC
Nokia has posted its quarterly results for the first quarter of 2013, and just like the quarters that came before, there's not a whole lot of good news in there. The rise in Lumia sales still can't even dream of making up for the sales drop in Symbian phones, and when broken down in versions, the sales figures for Windows Phone 8 Lumias in particular are very disappointing. In North America, Nokia is getting slaughtered.More Features »
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Neither Apple nor Samsung should be allowed to patent that, there's simply absolutely NOTHING new or inventive in either patent application. Those things -- including the controls and all -- have been done already in the 80s.