Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Sep 2012 23:41 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless If there's one thing I miss in the current smartphone industry, it's design. Honest to good, real design. We basically see one boring slab after another, void of any true identity, whether it's iPhone, Samsung, or any of the others. In this boring world of grey, black, and the occasional white, Nokia is the jester, coming up with its own unique designs and crazy colour selection. Today, the company unveiled the Lumia 920 and 820 to continue this trend.
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Not allowing WP7 phones to upgrade to WP8 is a "huge betrayal"? Get a grip. How many carriers upgrade your phone--ever? Most phones are obsolete the moment you buy them, and they're quickly orphaned by the carrier. Besides, most of the older devices do not meet the minimum specs for WP8 certification; hence, it doesn't even make sense to offer an upgrade that would actually downgrade your experience.

First of all, carriers never do upgrades for the phones, manufacturers do. And if you live in EU you can always install the upgrades manufacturers release for the devices. It's not restricted in anyway. Same with the most of the Asia to my knowledge. Only USA's carriers seem to be so dumb that they actually limit the upgrade possibilities.

And just to answer your question. Every single Symbian update released for my Symbian devices, I've gotten them all. I've also gotten all the updates for my N9. And I got tons of upgrades for my HTC Android devices including the 2.3.3 update for HTC Desire.

I recognize your point about that some earlier devices might not be able to run Windows Phone 8. However I made a point about how a phone that was released like few months ago, that was touted to be the biggest, the latest and the best, was abandoned before it ever managed to even hit the marketplace.

Besides to my understanding Lumia 800 and Lumia 900 are perfectly capable of running Windows Phone 8. And that they could run the latest software for Windows Phone 8.

Especially in my opinion people who bought Lumia 900 were tricked and that's not a way to treat a customers. You can just imagine what kind of image that gives out of the company doing that.

In German the larges carrier around (T-Mobile) stopped selling Lumia 900 as a result of this move. And in many places Lumia 900 found it self to be in a discount and to be sold with just 1€ euro.

T-Mobile did the right call. They didn't want to hear from their customers that they were tricked. They protected their own reputation. And who can blame them? Nokia and Microsoft tricked everyone who bought Lumia 900.

There isn't a sales chain problem within Windows Phone ecosystem. Nokia has/had the world's largest sales chain. If it doesn't sell, it effectively means that nobody wants to have it. The Problem is that nobody wants to buy Windows Phones due shit like this.

Edited 2012-09-09 14:28 UTC

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Your response was complete bullshit. Here in the US, carriers control when update rollouts occur.

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Dekonega Member since:

Here in the US, carriers control when update rollouts occur.

I know that. I wrote a line about it in my previous message to you. It's wrong that carriers [in USA] have that kind of control over what you buy. It shouldn't be like that. You're buying a service from them and that's all. Any device should work in any network without any artificial restrictions.

The way three largest communication companies in USA operate reminds me of a cartel. They're holding back their customers and restricting their legal rights with a various agreements (especially AT&T). It's bad for customers, it's bad for competing businesses, and it's definitely morally wrong.

Edited 2012-09-09 18:43 UTC

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