Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2012 14:51 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Apple Written by Scott Cleland: "With so many fanboys spinning Silicon Valley history, it's sometimes easy to forget about the real chain of events that led to the ongoing Apple-Google thermonuclear war, how the romance turned to hate. This timeline presents an interesting case about why, despite patents and prior art, Steve Jobs had plenty of personal reasons to despise Schmidt, Page, and Brin." Cleland has a very, very good point; quite coherent and well-reasoned... That is, if you haven't got a single shred of historical sense and completely and utterly ignore the 30-odd years of mobile computing development that preceded our current crop of smartphones. It's hard not to be reminded of how certain groups of people dismiss millions of years of fossil records because this record inconveniences their argument. In any case, a comment on the article answered the question properly: "Jobs was a businessman. He was angry he was losing money. Simple."
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RE[2]: Losing money?
by tylerdurden on Mon 10th Sep 2012 16:56 UTC in reply to "RE: Losing money? "
tylerdurden
Member since:
2009-03-17

Apple does not monopolize anything, in fact they don't have the biggest market shares in many of the segments in which they compete. What they have are the highest margins from almost any other vendor in the markets they are in, which is very different picture from the "soap opera" scenario many of you mistakenly assume the technology field is.


Apple is not suing anyone because they can't compete, Apple sues other vendors who they think infringe on their designs (and design languages by extension). Because Apple's design is perhaps their principal value proposition that helps them justify/achieve their high margin business model.

Microsoft and Google have both very different business models from each other, and Apple as well. They are all going to be fine. Apple will eventually execute poorly at some point (perhaps the iPhone 5 will be just too evolutionary and lead to an stagnant image), and they will be brought down back to reality. A bit over a decade ago, it was Microsoft who was unstoppable and couldn't do no wrong, alas...


People so emotionally vested on specific technology companies, that they have nothing to do with, is an odd phenomenon. Perhaps a hint towards the possibility of an ill adjustment to reality.

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RE[3]: Losing money?
by Laurence on Mon 10th Sep 2012 21:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Losing money? "
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Apple does not monopolize anything,

I never said they did. In fact that was part of my bloody point in regards to their financial bubble

What they have are the highest margins from almost any other vendor in the markets they are in, which is very different picture from the "soap opera" scenario many of you mistakenly assume the technology field is.

Many of whom? I'm talking purely about financial side of things.


Apple is not suing anyone because they can't compete,

I didn't say that either

In fact, did you even read anything I said or did you just decided you'd go off on your own random counter-argument on the assumption I'd probably be spouting some emotional BS?


I can't blame you for skimming my post (it was a bloody long one), but if you're not going to read it properly then please don't waste your time responding as I really can do without these pathetic misunderstandings.

Edited 2012-09-10 21:23 UTC

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RE[4]: Losing money?
by tylerdurden on Tue 11th Sep 2012 17:40 in reply to "RE[3]: Losing money? "
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17


I can't blame you for skimming my post (it was a bloody long one), but if you're not going to read it properly then please don't waste your time responding as I really can do without these pathetic misunderstandings.


Technically your response was already emotional enough, since it was basically an ad hominem.

BTW, here let me help you remember what you actually wrote , so perhaps now you can comprehend my previous post:

Thus they need to monopolise the market and thus they need to prevent their biggest competition from, well, competing.


Cheers.

Edited 2012-09-11 17:43 UTC

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RE[3]: Losing money?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 10th Sep 2012 22:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Losing money? "
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2008-06-02

Apple does not monopolize anything, in fact they don't have the biggest market shares in many of the segments in which they compete. What they have are the highest margins from almost any other vendor in the markets they are in, which...


Which makes them a tempting target for competition, and incredibly vulnerable to competition - because Apple's obscene margins make them incredibly easy to compete with on price.

Apple is not suing anyone because they can't compete


You know, I actually agree with you there. Apple doesn't sue because they can't compete, it's because they'd rather not have to compete. An important distinction, thanks for clearing that up.

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RE[4]: Losing money?
by jared_wilkes on Mon 10th Sep 2012 23:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Losing money? "
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Which makes them a tempting target for competition, and incredibly vulnerable to competition - because Apple's obscene margins make them incredibly easy to compete with on price.


Who is doing this? We are talking financially, right? The health of a company is largely on financial terms... Yes, everyone is copying Apple, but who is competing with Apple? Samsung in some segments, that's it. HP, Dell, Nokia, RIM, Palm, Motorola, Microsoft... It is easy to trade profit for share; it is not easy to compete with Apple.

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