Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2012 14:51 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Apple Written by Scott Cleland: "With so many fanboys spinning Silicon Valley history, it's sometimes easy to forget about the real chain of events that led to the ongoing Apple-Google thermonuclear war, how the romance turned to hate. This timeline presents an interesting case about why, despite patents and prior art, Steve Jobs had plenty of personal reasons to despise Schmidt, Page, and Brin." Cleland has a very, very good point; quite coherent and well-reasoned... That is, if you haven't got a single shred of historical sense and completely and utterly ignore the 30-odd years of mobile computing development that preceded our current crop of smartphones. It's hard not to be reminded of how certain groups of people dismiss millions of years of fossil records because this record inconveniences their argument. In any case, a comment on the article answered the question properly: "Jobs was a businessman. He was angry he was losing money. Simple."
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RE[3]: Losing money?
by JAlexoid on Mon 10th Sep 2012 17:26 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Losing money? "
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

WTF are you smoking there!?!?!
Apple makes money essentially off iPhone and iPad. Anything happens to them - they're dead.
Compared to that, Microsoft can actually hold on for another 10 years - Office on Windows kills anything on Mac.
Google is in a strange place... they kind of have a lot of information hoarded.

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RE[4]: Losing money?
by Windows Sucks on Mon 10th Sep 2012 18:04 in reply to "RE[3]: Losing money? "
Windows Sucks Member since:
2005-11-10

WTF are you smoking there!?!?!
Apple makes money essentially off iPhone and iPad. Anything happens to them - they're dead.
Compared to that, Microsoft can actually hold on for another 10 years - Office on Windows kills anything on Mac.
Google is in a strange place... they kind of have a lot of information hoarded.


? What

Did you pay attention to last quarter. Hello Apple made more money on each separate business then MS made period. MS had a loss. iTunes by its self made more money then MS as a whole last quarter.

MS has NO growth businesses! NONE. Not Windows not Office. And they have money losing businesses like their whole entertainment unit, their cloud unit etc. If Windows and or Office (Cause without Windows Office would not sell) were to ever crash that would be it, MS's other businesses don't make money. Where as Apple's PC division is still growing. Doesn't make a ton of money, but still billions in profits, so do iPods (Even though that business is shrinking)

And if you want to say who would last longer if their main businesses crashed? Last I looked Apple had over $120 billion in the bank. Thats more then MS and Google combined with a whole lot of change left over!

Leave the pipe alone!

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RE[5]: Losing money?
by No it isnt on Mon 10th Sep 2012 18:32 in reply to "RE[4]: Losing money? "
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

No, Apple did not make more money off the Mac than Microsoft did "period". Microsoft had record shattering revenues and profits and decided this was a better time to write off a stupid acquisition than later, when the write-off will make Windows 8 seem even worse. For a failing company, Microsoft still does ridiculously well. Windows 7 is still growing faster than the iPad.

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RE[5]: Losing money?
by JAlexoid on Thu 13th Sep 2012 23:06 in reply to "RE[4]: Losing money? "
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Owning stocks in all three companies I kind of tend to look how their financials are going.

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RE[4]: Losing money?
by MOS6510 on Mon 10th Sep 2012 18:36 in reply to "RE[3]: Losing money? "
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2011-05-12

They made a profit just selling Macs many years ago and they still do. If the whole iOS business goes belly up Apple could survive on those Macs, but they will become a very small player in the tech world.

They had a hit with the iPod and while it still makes a profit, this revenue steam is shrinking each year. This could happen to the iPhone or the iPad too.

They will need to be ahead of the rest and come with the next big thing, which rumors have it be the television. This market is probably more difficult than phones and tablets, certainly on a global business.

i don't think they can continue being ahead of the market forever, one day they will rejoin the pack just like Microsoft did.

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RE[5]: Losing money?
by Laurence on Mon 10th Sep 2012 21:22 in reply to "RE[4]: Losing money? "
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

They made a profit just selling Macs many years ago and they still do. If the whole iOS business goes belly up Apple could survive on those Macs, but they will become a very small player in the tech world.

That's assuming they survive the subsequent crash of their share prices after their financial bubble bursts.

For some companies, that along has been enough to kill them off.


i don't think they can continue being ahead of the market forever, one day they will rejoin the pack just like Microsoft did.

The problem is, Apple aren't ahead of the market in anything but income and stock price. And that's a pretty risky game to play if nearly all your income is tied up in a small fraction of your business. What's more, Apples products are, essentially, luxury items. Where as Windows Desktop / Server, Office and Visual Studio are not.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Apples days are numbered, just that their business model isn't as stable as they'd like you to believe. Sadly the old adage: "do one thing and do it really well" doesn't apply when it comes to multi-million dollar businesses - and particularly not when your successful product is an item that's easily replicated.

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RE[5]: Losing money?
by BallmerKnowsBest on Mon 10th Sep 2012 22:29 in reply to "RE[4]: Losing money? "
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2008-06-02

They will need to be ahead of the rest and come with the next big thing, which rumors have it be the television.


LOL WUT? TV the next big, seriously?

Oh, there's a call from the 1920s on line 1. A Mr. Logie Baird would like to have a word with you...

Edited 2012-09-10 22:29 UTC

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