Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 10th Sep 2012 09:54 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Now here's an interesting little nugget Jeff Bezos didn't want you to know about when he introduced his new Kindle tablets: the Kindle Fire HD is ad-supported, and originally, you would not have been able to remove those advertisements from the device. Over the weekend, the company reversed this policy, allowing you to permanently remove the advertisements from your Fire HD for $15.
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New Kindle Fire is only worth buying if...
by rklrkl on Mon 10th Sep 2012 19:28 UTC
rklrkl
Member since:
2005-07-06

..it can be rooted and something far less locked down and more advanced like CyanogenMod 10 can be installed. Without the rooting/new OS, the new Fire will be horribly locked down with far less apps available than Google Play (and the pay-to-remove ads too).

BTW, you don't need an HDMI port on a tablet because it's a portable device that would be a complete ball-ache to constantly attach and re-attach to watch a movie or play a game on a big screen. That's what you get either a cheap Android set-top box or something like a cheap media centre device (Raspberry Pi if you really must go bare-bones) that *permanently attaches to HDMI. Ouya+XBMC is promised for next year and that's a feasible route if the hardware isn't vapourware.

Here in the UK, Amazon missed the boat somewhat by never shipping the original Kindle Fire outside the US, effectively allowing other brands of 7" tablets (mainly cheap Chinese imports like the dubiously named Ainol - I kid you not! - to get a foothold until the selling-like-hot-cakes Nexus 7 came along).

I got my 16GB UK Nexus 7 for only 20 pounds more than the equivalent new Kindle Fire will sell in the UK (thanks to Tesco briefly incorrectly offering 20 pounds off :-) ) and I've already got a ton of Google Play apps on it, rooted and tried out two series of ROMs (Modaco and CyanogenMod 10). I've had a decent amount of value out of it after a short time and I keep my heavier/larger HP TouchPad at home exclusively now :-)

BTW, it amuses me that the 3 tablets I have, an HP TouchPad, a Nexus 7 and a Playbook cost in total about the same as an iPad 3 (which I wouldn't ever buy because it's a horribly locked down device)! And, yes, not one of my 3 tablets has an HDMI socket despite me owning two plasma TVs with multiple HDMI inputs - I use dedicated Revo units for HDMI media duties.

Edited 2012-09-10 19:32 UTC

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vaette Member since:
2008-08-09

You are pirating if you install Google Play either way, none of the Google apps (Play, Maps, Gmail, etc.) are free. For more "normal" Android devices the cost of paying Google for a license is baked into the purchase price, so installing the Google apps on a Kindle is plain old piracy.

Which I don't say you can't do, but I don't want there to be too much confusion about what is free and not.

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Splinter Member since:
2005-07-13

You are pirating if you install Google Play either way, none of the Google apps (Play, Maps, Gmail, etc.) are free. For more "normal" Android devices the cost of paying Google for a license is baked into the purchase price, so installing the Google apps on a Kindle is plain old piracy.

Which I don't say you can't do, but I don't want there to be too much confusion about what is free and not.


Actually no. Google apps are downloadable for free! However you cannot include them in another product without breaching the license.

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ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

BTW, you don't need an HDMI port on a tablet because it's a portable device that would be a complete ball-ache to constantly attach and re-attach to watch a movie or play a game on a big screen. That's what you get either a cheap Android set-top box or something like a cheap media centre device (Raspberry Pi if you really must go bare-bones) that *permanently attaches to HDMI. Ouya+XBMC is promised for next year and that's a feasible route if the hardware isn't vapourware.

I won't buy a tablet that doesn't have an HDMI port on it. If I'm going to use a tablet, which is basically just a portable media playback device, then I better be able to easily take it somewhere like my friends house who has a high-end 100" projector, plug it in, and enjoy.

IMO not putting an hdmi port on a tablet is just plain stupid.

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