Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Sep 2012 20:28 UTC
Apple Ah, skeuomorphism - my favourite punching bag. Austin Carr has spoken to former Apple designers and people within the company, and they're all confirming there's a rift within Cupertino between people who want to move away from skeuomorphism, and people who want to retain it as much as possible, and even want to expand it. Since I've long hoped for Apple to ditch this "visual masturbation", as one former Apple designer calls it, I'm happy to learn not the entire company supports skeuomorphism.
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I don't get it...
by thavith_osn on Tue 11th Sep 2012 22:46 UTC
thavith_osn
Member since:
2005-07-11

NB: My argument below is on good design where form and function are equal.

WTF does it matter!

Your app has a leather look or wooden look or notepad look or whatever.

Designers cannot win, some will opt for real world look and feel, some will want a more abstract design.

What I do like about visual masturbation is someone who has never used the system before can get an idea of what the "object" in question does (if done right).

The real world gives us cues, so why not use them.

I do agree that if the design gets in the way of function then I have an issue, but if all things are equal, who gives a #@$%

Personally, I don't care, if the app works and is easy to use and understand, then I'm happy.

iCal is very easy to use and understand, I have 0 problems with it.

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RE: I don't get it...
by _txf_ on Wed 12th Sep 2012 08:54 in reply to "I don't get it..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

iCal is very easy to use and understand, I have 0 problems with it.


It works, Except for the fact that it doesn't even look like real leather.

It just looks like somebody took a Sh*t over the ui

Edited 2012-09-12 08:54 UTC

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RE[2]: I don't get it...
by MOS6510 on Wed 12th Sep 2012 13:32 in reply to "RE: I don't get it..."
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I had to launch iCal to see what leather you were talking about.

Personally I don't care much for fake leather or skeuomorphism, partly because I don't even see it. My eyes and brain have adapted to only see and process what I need and ignore the rest, like skeuomorphism, ads or unimportant details.

This makes me wonder, if someone use iCal, I mean really use it and not just launch 'n' look, is this fake leather stuff really that eye catching and distracting? It's just a small bar with a few buttons, does this really sabotage your productivity?

Much more important, for me, is the menubar and it's always at the top and it's always pretty consistent in its layout. If this was molded in to some skeuomorphism that would be annoying, but it isn't.

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RE: I don't get it...
by No it isnt on Wed 12th Sep 2012 16:22 in reply to "I don't get it..."
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

It matters the moment the secondary invention (iCal) has replaced the primary invention (the physical calendar): every function is a photo-realistic imitation of something the user has never been acquainted with.

There's a reason why Apple invented the red stylised handset as the 'reject call' button instead of using a photorealistic rendering of a 1970s era phone with the handset resting on the phone itself: red is commonly used as a stop signal, whereas no one uses a 1970s era phone any more. Language is symbolic, not imitative. Imitations of things that don't exist are meaningless to a user; symbolic representations of actual functions are not.

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RE[2]: I don't get it...
by _txf_ on Wed 12th Sep 2012 17:43 in reply to "RE: I don't get it..."
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

There's a reason why Apple invented the red stylised handset as the 'reject call' button


They "invented it"....

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