Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Sep 2012 22:30 UTC
Intel You'd think this sort of stuff belonged to the past - but no. Apparently, Microsoft is afraid of Android on its Windows 8 tablets, because Intel has just announced that it will provide no support for Linux on its clover Trail processors. Supposedly, this chip is "designed for Windows 8". What?
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RE: Comment by stabbyjones
by ilovebeer on Fri 14th Sep 2012 23:18 UTC in reply to "Comment by stabbyjones"
ilovebeer
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2011-08-08

Proprietary software one again seeking to slow down free software just enough to keep the consumer annoyed.

Be careful with your proprietary software bashing. The world would be much worse off if proprietary systems and software disappeared. I hope you realize that, and then realize the grim reality of "be careful what you wish for" the all-software-should-be-free bible thumpers readily ignore.

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by winter skies on Fri 14th Sep 2012 23:52 in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
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2009-08-21

Be careful with your proprietary software bashing. The world would be much worse off if proprietary systems and software disappeared. I hope you realize that, and then realize the grim reality of "be careful what you wish for" the all-software-should-be-free bible thumpers readily ignore.


Whoa, let's be careful with proprietary software bashing or we could cause society grat trouble!
Now "the world would be much worse" is an assumption you must be very insightful - almost omniscient - to make, as it's quite a demanding task to guess how a world without proprietary software would be. Anyway that hypoetical world has absolutely nothing to do with the topic here. It's so far-fetched you must have felt at least on the edge of bad faith writing your comment.
Nobody would freakin ever complain about proprietary software if there wasn't the suspicion - as in this case - that someone's trying to compete outside the boundaries of what's legitimate this way damaging other entities.
What the heck has this to do with hating proprietary software? All players should just play fair, but maybe that's outside the scope for some of them. The details aren't known yet, but I would get very annoyed by a hypotetical company making it more difficult for an open source OS to support a new processor. It sounds like a steer from the usual Intel policy and as such it does not seem to be happening just by chance.

If you think this shows how bad free software supporters are (the vast majority of which I'm sure don't want proprietary software to disappear but just like having more choice and the possibility to know what the code they're using really does) feel free to voice your personal reality, but be aware it sounds quite crazy.

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v RE[3]: Comment by stabbyjones
by ilovebeer on Sat 15th Sep 2012 01:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones"
RE[3]: Comment by stabbyjones
by bassbeast on Sat 15th Sep 2012 02:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones"
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2007-11-11

The simple fact is ALL FOSS software suffers from the "busted toilet" problem. What is the busted toilet problem?

Its simple, if I ask you to paint me a picture or write me a song for free? i'll have dozens to choose from, some of which will probably be good. If I ask you to come and fix my nasty busted toilet? I hope I enjoy peeing in the sink because it ain't happening.

What does that have to do with software? Simple, regressions testing, bug fixing, QA and QC, all of these jobs are boring, tedious, thankless and dull jobs and in Linux...they just don't get done. Don't take My word for it, go to any bug tracker and see how old some of the bugs are, Ubuntu for example has 6+ year old bugs in their bug tracker.

The simple fact is with paid software if they don't fix? People don't buy and they go out of business. Apple and MS pay millions upon millions of dollars to do those lousy stinking jobs which is why your desktop doesn't crash when you switch from a video to a chat window like X-Server has been known to do, those kinds of bugs get fixed because the corp pays to have them fixed.

I really wish FOSS didn't have this problem, as a retailer I'd love a "third way" and frankly MS doesn't do us little guys ANY favors on pricing, but its simply human nature. The reason it works on servers and Android works on phones? Google spends a billion a year on Android, corps spend hundreds of millions on Linux server so those bugs ARE being paid to be fixed. Its just because there is really no money to be made on the desktop (MS makes money by selling licenses by the hundreds of millions, without that kind of scale you can't compete) nobody is sinking that money into it and the bugs just don't get fixed.

Every year the desktop gets prettier, because again creating pretty things is a natural part of the human animal, but better? Nope, not really.

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by Soulbender on Sat 15th Sep 2012 01:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Because the same is not true for free software....

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RE[2]: Comment by stabbyjones
by tidux on Sat 15th Sep 2012 12:56 in reply to "RE: Comment by stabbyjones"
tidux Member since:
2011-08-13

Please, name one thing that would disappear if all software was legally required to respect the FSF's four freedoms. Malware? Nagware like mIRC? Ten thousand shitty 99 cent fart buttons? Software patents?

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