Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Sep 2012 16:53 UTC
Google There's a bit of a story going on between Google, Acer, and Alibaba, a Chinese mobile operating system vendor. Acer wanted to ship a device with Alibaba's operating system, but Google asked them not to, and Acer complied. The reason is that Acer is a member of the Open Handset Alliance, which prohibits the promotion of non-standard Android implementations - exactly what Alibaba is shipping. On top of that, Alibaba's application store hosts pirated Android applications, including ones from Google.
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RE[7]: Wait a minute
by cdude on Mon 17th Sep 2012 12:07 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Wait a minute"
cdude
Member since:
2008-09-21

Just wait what Haier is doing in the future. If they stay in the OHA but stop making new Aliyun devices then you have your answer. Not every company is that stupid (vocal) with there coperate communication like Acer.

oPhone seems to be pre Android 1.0, before the OHA was born, before Android was google. No conflict.

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RE[8]: Wait a minute
by jared_wilkes on Mon 17th Sep 2012 12:16 in reply to "RE[7]: Wait a minute"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Acer didn't complain. They were going ahead with an anouncement that they thought they could make because Haier had already done the same thing. Then Google threatened them, then Alibaba pointed the finger at Google, not Acer. Then Google admitted it before Acer ever blamed Google.

The OHA was started in 2007. The first oPhone came in 2009. Lenovo introduced and continues to produce the LePhone, a similar not-fully compatible but Android-derivative over the last year or two.

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RE[9]: Wait a minute
by cdude on Mon 17th Sep 2012 14:15 in reply to "RE[8]: Wait a minute"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

You have to differ what happened in private mails and what via public news-portals. Google did not do anything of that public and only once someone (eitherbAlibaba or Acer or both) made it public it became dirty.

You also do not like to argue that Acer was expecting they can violate against the one single term the OHA has, compatibility, without any consequences or do you? Just because you know someone who was driving his car drunken and did not kill anybody or slhimself does not mean you should do it too, you know.

Lenovo's Le Phone comes with oPhone which is based on a Android version before Google bought the company behind Android. Google's Android of today has very less in common with the Android from Android Inc (no Dalvik for example, total different APIs, etc).

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RE[8]: Wait a minute
by jared_wilkes on Mon 17th Sep 2012 12:32 in reply to "RE[7]: Wait a minute"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

If they stay in the OHA but stop making new Aliyun devices then you have your answer.


That's nonsense. I already have my answer. I already have proof that 2 OHA members are doing exactly what Google claims is not permitted. Either Google doesn't care, doesn't know its own rules, doesn't enforce its rules, doesn't have these rules, or are being complete hypocrites, changing the rules when it really matters. Either way, it seems very clear that OHA members may not believe that they are required to only support one true Android.

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RE[9]: Wait a minute
by cdude on Mon 17th Sep 2012 14:22 in reply to "RE[8]: Wait a minute"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

LePhone/oPhone is not based on Google Android. Please read up on Wikipedia for example.

To the otger Aliyun OS case: I doubt any of them OHA members will in future bring out any device running Aliyun. That may also explain Alibabas try to make tgis a public case.

You can see Alibabas mind on that in there last reply. Stating Aliyun is not a Android fork but using just some opensource parts of Android. And my cat eat my homework. Sureeeeeee.

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