Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 16th Sep 2012 16:53 UTC
Google There's a bit of a story going on between Google, Acer, and Alibaba, a Chinese mobile operating system vendor. Acer wanted to ship a device with Alibaba's operating system, but Google asked them not to, and Acer complied. The reason is that Acer is a member of the Open Handset Alliance, which prohibits the promotion of non-standard Android implementations - exactly what Alibaba is shipping. On top of that, Alibaba's application store hosts pirated Android applications, including ones from Google.
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RE[9]: Wait a minute
by cdude on Mon 17th Sep 2012 14:15 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Wait a minute"
cdude
Member since:
2008-09-21

You have to differ what happened in private mails and what via public news-portals. Google did not do anything of that public and only once someone (eitherbAlibaba or Acer or both) made it public it became dirty.

You also do not like to argue that Acer was expecting they can violate against the one single term the OHA has, compatibility, without any consequences or do you? Just because you know someone who was driving his car drunken and did not kill anybody or slhimself does not mean you should do it too, you know.

Lenovo's Le Phone comes with oPhone which is based on a Android version before Google bought the company behind Android. Google's Android of today has very less in common with the Android from Android Inc (no Dalvik for example, total different APIs, etc).

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RE[10]: Wait a minute
by jared_wilkes on Mon 17th Sep 2012 14:55 in reply to "RE[9]: Wait a minute"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

You have to differ what happened in private mails and what via public news-portals. Google did not do anything of that public and only once someone (eitherbAlibaba or Acer or both) made it public it became dirty.


No, it was dirty the instant Acer had to cancel an imminent announcement that Google had long known about.

You also do not like to argue that Acer was expecting they can violate against the one single term the OHA has, compatibility, without any consequences or do you? Just because you know someone who was driving his car drunken and did not kill anybody or slhimself does not mean you should do it too, you know.


Why should Acer expect to be stopped for doing something that someone else is doing? Your analogy falls down because police do not know the blood alcohol level of every driver in existence -- however, Google certainly knows that Haier has released an Aliyun phone and that they are an OHA member.

Lenovo's Le Phone comes with oPhone which is based on a Android version before Google bought the company behind Android. Google's Android of today has very less in common with the Android from Android Inc (no Dalvik for example, total different APIs, etc).


No. You keep arguing this based on a poorly written Wiki article. Please do some research. Telling you No over and over is getting boring.

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RE[11]: Wait a minute
by cdude on Mon 17th Sep 2012 20:18 in reply to "RE[10]: Wait a minute"
cdude Member since:
2008-09-21

Why should Acer expect to be stopped for doing something that someone else is doing?


Two wrongs make a good?

Your analogy falls down because police do not know the blood alcohol level of every driver


See, here we see the reason for our disagreement. My believe is NOT that you can,drink and drive as long as the police does not know.

Google certainly knows that Haier has released an Aliyun phone and that they are an OHA member.


Certainly yes and they certainly did not care cause well, Aliyun OS is 0.1% market share. But once they saw that not caring results in others doing the same and riscing that the whole purpose of the OHA may die they saw the need to do something to prevent that, to keep the OHA and Android compatibility alive.

Andy Rubin explicit named the compatibility-story as one of the main goals google has. It makes sense for the whole ecosystem, for us developers and customers. We like to have that compatibility between Android manufactors. Its very important for us.

Lenovo's Le Phone comes with oPhone which is based on a Android version before Google bought the company behind Android. Google's Android of today has very less in common with the Android from Android Inc (no Dalvik for example, total different APIs, etc).


No. You keep arguing this based on a poorly written Wiki article. Please do some research. Telling you No over and over is getting boring. [/q]

Dude thus is not how it works. Either you provide sources, proof, like I did or you do the same Alibaba does: claim simething but fail to proof and at the end we know you just where wrong.

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