Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Sep 2012 21:45 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Microsoft and RIM have announced that RIM has licensed Redmond's exFAT patents. The press release contains a ridiculous amount of hyperbole nonsense, and if you translate it into regular people speak, it basically comes down to RIM paying Microsoft protection money for stupid nonsensical software patents. Ridiculous articles like like this make it seem as if we're talking about patents on major technological breakthroughs, but don't be fooled: this is because for some inexplicable reason, we're using crappy FAT for SD cards.
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Where is the EU?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 18th Sep 2012 22:39 UTC
Bill Shooter of Bul
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2006-07-14

I don't understand why the EU hasn't raised a stink about this anticompetitive behaviour. We are using stinky FAT on our sd cards because MS scammed its way into a monopoly and then F'd everyone else over to get its technological underpinnings adopted as necessary standards for interoperability.

I'd love for the US DOJ to get involved again as well, but that's kind of like waiting for Godot.

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RE: Where is the EU?
by _txf_ on Tue 18th Sep 2012 22:42 in reply to "Where is the EU? "
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

We are using stinky FAT on our sd cards because MS scammed its way into a monopoly and then F'd everyone else over to get its technological underpinnings adopted as necessary standards for interoperability.


I seem to remember that Rambus got its ass handed to it for that very same behaviour. They submitted tech to JEDEC as a standard, which everybody then implemented. Rambus subsequently sued everybody, initally won, but then got slapped for anticompetitive behaviour.

Edited 2012-09-18 22:43 UTC

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RE[2]: Where is the EU?
by pgquiles on Tue 18th Sep 2012 22:49 in reply to "RE: Where is the EU? "
pgquiles Member since:
2006-07-16

When did Microsoft submit FAT as a standard for anything to any standardizing group?

Yeah, never, so that's the difference between MS and Rambus.

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RE: Where is the EU?
by kurkosdr on Wed 19th Sep 2012 12:03 in reply to "Where is the EU? "
kurkosdr Member since:
2011-04-11

I don't understand why the EU hasn't raised a stink about this anticompetitive behaviour. We are using stinky FAT on our sd cards because MS scammed its way into a monopoly and then F'd everyone else over to get its technological underpinnings adopted as necessary standards for interoperability."

Because MS licenses their FAT and exFAT patents under "FRAND" (for EU countries that have softpatents), much like MPEG LA licenses their stuff under "FRAND", so all is well.

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RE[2]: Where is the EU?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Wed 19th Sep 2012 14:47 in reply to "RE: Where is the EU? "
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Yes, I understand that more now than when I posted. Except that its really ill gotten gains. People need to use their technology because of their monopoly. The real question is how long they should suffer for their past crimes. I think 20 years is good, so I'd continue punishing them for another ten. Maybe require them to support a BSD lichened file system as an alternative to their own.

Speaking thereof, what woudl be a good open source alternative to exFat? One that has good properties for usb thumb drives and sd cards?

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