Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Sep 2012 21:45 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Microsoft and RIM have announced that RIM has licensed Redmond's exFAT patents. The press release contains a ridiculous amount of hyperbole nonsense, and if you translate it into regular people speak, it basically comes down to RIM paying Microsoft protection money for stupid nonsensical software patents. Ridiculous articles like like this make it seem as if we're talking about patents on major technological breakthroughs, but don't be fooled: this is because for some inexplicable reason, we're using crappy FAT for SD cards.
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RE[3]: Where is the EU?
by saso on Tue 18th Sep 2012 23:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Where is the EU? "
saso
Member since:
2007-04-18

When did Microsoft submit FAT as a standard for anything to any standardizing group?

Yeah, never, so that's the difference between MS and Rambus.


True, the comparison to Rambus is inadequate, however we do see MS abusing their dominant position in the PC market here. In order to allow for interoperability, you need to implement their proprietary filesystem, which is patent encumbered. Not doing so puts you at a significant disadvantage in the market. Not saying that this isn't exactly established practice in the industry though (such as standards being encumbered by FRAND nonsense patents and the like...)

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RE[4]: Where is the EU?
by pgquiles on Wed 19th Sep 2012 05:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Where is the EU? "
pgquiles Member since:
2006-07-16

we do see MS abusing their dominant position in the PC market here. In order to allow for interoperability, you need to implement their proprietary filesystem, which is patent encumbered.

Paying royalties in order to have interoperability is perfectly fine and the EU will not do anything about that.

The EU would only intervene if Microsoft wouldn't want to license exFAT to others, or if the royalties were way too high.

Remember, this is the same EU which has been trying to approve software patents for years.

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RE[5]: Where is the EU?
by saso on Wed 19th Sep 2012 10:41 in reply to "RE[4]: Where is the EU? "
saso Member since:
2007-04-18

Paying royalties in order to have interoperability is perfectly fine and the EU will not do anything about that.

I know and I object to that. It stifles innovation in open-source which is forced to either pay up (using money they don't have) or remain forever unable to compete. I'd be calmer if only the inventions really were patent-worthy, but a patent on some primitive algorithm for 8.3 name handling is just ludicrous...

The EU would only intervene if Microsoft wouldn't want to license exFAT to others, or if the royalties were way too high.

I know, that's why I said "FRAND nonsense patents".

Remember, this is the same EU which has been trying to approve software patents for years.

That's the European Commission, not the "EU" and not the European Parliament. The EC is a body of appointed bureaucrats that aren't directly responsible to the electorate, so it's quite obvious they are the first go-to place for corrupting interests.

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