Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Sep 2012 21:44 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Intel Clover Trail will get Linux and Android support after all. "Intel has plans for another version of this platform directed at Linux/Android; however we are not commenting on the platform specifics or market segments at this time. Stay tuned," Intel told ZDBet.
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RE[2]: Comment by Gusar
by 0brad0 on Thu 20th Sep 2012 06:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Gusar"
0brad0
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2007-05-05

This is no different than most Android tablets and handsets.

In most of them the GPU and WiFi drivers are not open source.


It says Linux / Android. That's not the case for Linux.

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RE[3]: Comment by Gusar
by moondevil on Thu 20th Sep 2012 09:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Gusar"
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2005-07-08

Linux is just a kernel, which also happens to be used in Android.

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RE[4]: Comment by Gusar
by Gusar on Thu 20th Sep 2012 11:14 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Gusar"
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2010-07-16

Oh come on, it's clear that by "Linux" he meant traditional Linux distros. And as such, he was differentiating between those and Android. Yeah, they use the same kernel, but the userspace is very different. Especially one critical component - the graphics layer. Android doesn't use X, so it's graphics blobs are useless for traditional Linux distros.

Which means if Intel wants to support both Linux and Android, they'll need to provide an X driver. And considering the past (emgd and cwd drivers), it'll be a half-assed driver that only works with a specific kernel and X version, if you're lucky.

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RE[4]: Comment by Gusar
by 0brad0 on Thu 20th Sep 2012 18:39 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Gusar"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

Linux is just a kernel, which also happens to be used in Android.


Doesn't change what I said.

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RE[4]: Comment by Gusar
by aftermath on Fri 21st Sep 2012 01:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Gusar"
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2010-10-29

Your description is blurry. Even though this isn't what you explicitly said, I think that a lot of people believe that "Android is Linux", and your comment is insufficiently worded to account or correct for such misapprehension.

It's true that Android is "Linux-based", but that's a little misleading and useless because technically every distribution of GNU/Linux is "Linux-based". Fortunately, most people get that Android isn't a distribution of Linux, but of the many reasons why this is true, the most important is the fact that Android's kernel is not the the Linux kernel. Android's kernel is a modified fork of Linux. Beyond that, Android as an operating diverges substantially from actual distributions of Linux with its goofy application framework, middleware, and other such hackish nonsense (the worst thing that can happen to Android will be Wayland 1.0).

I'd encourage people to check out Jeff Hoogland's well-considered article "Six Signs that Android really isn't Linux", especially people who mislead themselves by thinking that: in using Android they are using Linux, that the popularity of Android is somehow beneficial to Linux, that Android is a sufficient alternative to a proper distribution of Linux, or that Android is even a valid open source project that is legitimate for the FOSS crowd to support as either users or developers.

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