Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 19th Sep 2012 21:40 UTC
Legal "The International Trade Commission voted yesterday to investigate Apple for patent infringement allegations launched by the Google-owned Motorola Mobility. As expected, Motorola is asking for import bans on just about every iOS device, including iPhones, iPods, and iPads. What might be surprising is that Motorola is also asking for a ban on every type of Mac OS X computer, claiming Apple's iMessage technology infringes a Motorola patent." Let's hope all those products get banned. And that all Motorola phones get banned. Let's hope everything gets banned from the US. And yes, I changed Motorola into Google for the headline.
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RE[2]: Iconic design
by Tony Swash on Thu 20th Sep 2012 11:14 UTC in reply to "RE: Iconic design"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

When I look at an apple product I always have to think of Braun, how come . . .


Think. The difference between Apple being inspired by Braun and the current situation is this. Braun's designs are from decades ago and relate to Braun products and product categories which Apple did not make or compete with. If, for example, Apple was inspired by Braun's designs to design it's Mac Pros so they look like how a Braun T1000 radio used to look then Braun won't give a toss, if however Apple at the time that Braun were making the T1000 radio had released a radio that looked just like a T1000 then I think Braun would have had objected.

I understand that some people think that copying stuff is Ok and that it is endemic and a good thing. It's the people that actually think that Samsung didn't try to copy Apple's products or that Google did not reset the design on Android after the iPhone launch to make it look just like iOS, that I don't understand.

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RE[3]: Iconic design
by darknexus on Thu 20th Sep 2012 13:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Iconic design"
darknexus Member since:
2008-07-15

or that Google did not reset the design on Android after the iPhone launch to make it look just like iOS

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think you're confusing Android with Samsung's Touchwiz. Samsung did make TouchWiz look like the iPhone. There is no debate possible on that point, even though I think the entire case is one giant farce from both sides. Stock Android doesn't really look or behave much like iOS, apart from using a multitouch interface. The UI is different, the convensions of apps (well, if you can call them that) are quite a bit different as far as how icons look, where they are placed, how you access additional features, etc. Have a look at Google's new YouTube app for example, which seems like Google took their Android convensions and slapped them on an iOS app. It doesn't fit with most iOS apps, but would drop nicely into a stock Android GUI.
Did Google revamp Android for multitouch after the iPhone came out? Undeniably yes, and Google's own documents have shown this. However, it is most certainly different from iOS in look and feel and, you'll also note, that Apple didn't go after Google but went after Samsung who made a custom GUI that was much more iOS-like. I'm not going to get into whether either company should or should not have done certain things, as that topic has been done to death and will continue to be flogged as this legal crap drags on. Have a look at stock Android though, and get a feel for how non-iOS like it actually is.
P.S. I'm an iPhone user myself, though I don't go in for the cult of Apple or the rdf that I see so often around their products.

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RE[3]: Iconic design
by flypig on Thu 20th Sep 2012 15:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Iconic design"
flypig Member since:
2005-07-13

It's the people that actually think that Samsung didn't try to copy Apple's products or that Google did not reset the design on Android after the iPhone launch to make it look just like iOS, that I don't understand.


To be fair, I think for most people the argument is more nuanced than this. Most people accept that iOS has had the benefit of building on others' ideas. Most people accept that Android has had the benefit of building on others' ideas.

The question is therefore one of degrees. The people you're referring to probably simply can't see that Android has taken more from iOS than iOS has taken from others. It certainly looks like a close judgement call to me, and the fact different people have different opinions suggests the balance isn't necessarily clear cut.

These arguments aren't really relevant to either this or the recent Apple/Samsung court cases though. These judgements are based on different criteria.

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