Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2012 22:22 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems If there's one over-used buzzword currently making the rounds in the technology industry, it's 'post-PC world' - or the notion that desktops and laptops are a dying breed. Todd Bradley, executive vice president of HP's printing and personal systems group, thinks this is a nonsensical notion - and he's right.
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RE: Comment by kovacm
by MOS6510 on Fri 21st Sep 2012 10:47 UTC in reply to "Comment by kovacm"
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Well, not like Bradley. HP doesn't have any post-HP stuff to sell, so he's part of the group that denies post-PC... and then tries to sell PC stuff.

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RE[2]: Comment by kovacm
by kovacm on Fri 21st Sep 2012 14:30 in reply to "RE: Comment by kovacm"
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Well, not like Bradley. HP doesn't have any post-HP stuff to sell, so he's part of the group that denies post-PC... and then tries to sell PC stuff.

I just meant that: "so he's part of the group that denies post-PC... and then tries to sell PC stuff." - like Thom stated: " it comes from people who are trying to sell you something." ;)

The reason that we still don't have Atari and Amiga computers is because IBM had opened up the specifications for their BIOS and expansion boards, and the birth of cheap clones came about.

btw only thing that "open"* IBM PC bring is CRAPWARE to masses for next 15 years! Atari and Amiga from 1985. looks like STAR TREK technologies compared to PC (or Mac).

*(like someone said: Compaq open it, IBM never share BIOS specification)

Thanx to that "openness" of PC, today we have Apple that have no real competitors because everybody made only dummy hardware - they gave up from software and rely on Microsoft solutions! Thanx to Steve, Apple manage to survive; otherwise we would loose great NextSTep/OS X and lot more (we all saw Microsoft "vision" of Tablets in 2001...)!

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RE[3]: Comment by kovacm
by MOS6510 on Fri 21st Sep 2012 17:10 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kovacm"
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Well, I wouldn't say PCs are crap.

They are very flexible when it comes to combining hardware, meaning motherboards, CPUs, memory, drives, expansion cards, etc...

What makes most PCs crap is that they come with a lot of crapware. I'm still not sure what Norton is. I mean, does it actually do anything positive or just it just nag you to pay up? If you check the list of auto starting programs it's not unusual to find 6 or more vendor-added things.

Love it or hate it, Windows has its fans and a lot of people seem to be able to do with it what they want.

Now what is fun it so take an old PC or even a new one, customize it they way you want it or just grab expansion cards you have hidden in the attic and try to fit as many as you can in your PC. Then install Linux and try to make everything work. What I like to do is compile a new kernel (the latest), only include drivers that are needed to boot the machine and make the rest modules. It doesn't have a real practical use, but it's a nice feeling to know your kernel doesn't contain any stuff you don't need.

Linux on de PC is bloody boring and crap if you just use it as your desktop OS to do real world stuff. But it is a lot of fun if you mess around with it. Everything you need is free. Mail/file/web servers, database systems, programming languages. Install it with the touch of a button and you're ready to play around with it. It's very self-educational.

Sure, you can do this too with Windows or OS X, but it just doesn't feel right.

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