Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2012 22:22 UTC
Hardware, Embedded Systems If there's one over-used buzzword currently making the rounds in the technology industry, it's 'post-PC world' - or the notion that desktops and laptops are a dying breed. Todd Bradley, executive vice president of HP's printing and personal systems group, thinks this is a nonsensical notion - and he's right.
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RE[4]: Its mostly happened
by jeffb on Sat 22nd Sep 2012 22:24 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Its mostly happened"
jeffb
Member since:
2005-07-19

Cherry picking! We are looking at total sales of all PC globally, that's not a cherry picked number.

2009 sales are rising and the rate they are rising is slowly falling
2012 sales are falling and the rate they are falling is rapidly increasing

Something happened between 2009 and 2012 and it is not a drastic shift in PC reliability.

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RE[5]: Its mostly happened
by Soulbender on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 04:22 in reply to "RE[4]: Its mostly happened"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Something happened between 2009 and 2012 and it is not a drastic shift in PC reliability.


Global recession?

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RE[6]: Its mostly happened
by jeffb on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 04:53 in reply to "RE[5]: Its mostly happened"
jeffb Member since:
2005-07-19

"Something happened between 2009 and 2012 and it is not a drastic shift in PC reliability.


Global recession?
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No, if it were the recession we would have expected to see a sharp fall in sales in 2008 maybe into 2009 and then recovery like we have with most other semi-durable goods. Instead we saw strong sales in 09 that have been weakening steadily.

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RE[5]: Its mostly happened
by ilovebeer on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 06:11 in reply to "RE[4]: Its mostly happened"
ilovebeer Member since:
2011-08-08

Cherry picking! We are looking at total sales of all PC globally, that's not a cherry picked number.

The problem with your theory is that you're ignoring the fact that people aren't upgrading their PC's nearly as much as they were a mere few years back because they simply don't need to. Further, you ignore that sales were slowing before tablets come into play. And, you're claiming the "real" reason for the decline is credited to the rise of tablets although you have no credible source in support of this.

I know the tablet-lovers really really want to believe their `precious` is killing PC's but the painful truth, for them, is they're not.

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RE[6]: Its mostly happened
by jeffb on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 18:20 in reply to "RE[5]: Its mostly happened"
jeffb Member since:
2005-07-19

The problem with your theory is that you're ignoring the fact that people aren't upgrading their PC's nearly as much as they were a mere few years back because they simply don't need to.


Which is a begging the question kind of fact. Why did the "need" to upgrade fall so sharply in the last few years.

Further, you ignore that sales were slowing before tablets come into play.


No, sales were growing before tablets came into play. The rate of growth in sales was falling but it was still very much a growing market. More importantly there was a huge downtick in the fall of the rate of growth.

And, you're claiming the "real" reason for the decline is credited to the rise of tablets although you have no credible source in support of this.


OK what about NPD. NPD did a survey of home users in early 2011. Of those users:

24% did their home browsing on their tablet.
60% found tablets to provide an acceptable internet experience.

Tablets I should add have gotten better in the last 18 months, so things would look bleaker now.

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