Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 22nd Sep 2012 22:07 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 will include advertisements for products on Amazon. It will look like this - if you search, product suggestions will pop up. This seems like a rather slippery slope to me, and I certainly wouldn't want this on my desktop, laptop, smartphone, tablet, or anywhere else. On the web - fine, I'm on your site, not mine - but my desktop is mine, and mine alone. Not that it matters - open source, someone will disable them. Biggest concern: does this mean my search queries get sent across the web?
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What... the... f***... :|
by UltraZelda64 on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 00:57 UTC
UltraZelda64
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2006-12-05

Just when Ubuntu supposedly starts making something halfway decent out of the atrocity known as Unity, they go ahead and do this. :|

Canonical has been proving time and time again that they can be trusted with the quality and consistency of the product as much as Microsoft can be with theirs (in other words: not at all), and with this, they're proving that this remains true. Increasingly Apple is showing they can't be trusted either, although I would say that they've already reached the point long ago where I wouldn't trust them with a ten-foot pole myself.

Move the window manager icons on left. Remove the GIMP. Announce ditching the X Window System for the still far from proven Wayland. Announce that a still buggy and incomplete graphical environment designed for netbooks and other screen-limited devices is going to be made the standard for ALL computers. Switch from a shitty (literally) brown theme to another horrible looking theme that looks like a kid dumped purple and orange food colorings in a shallow pan of milk. Move on over Microsoft, it looks like you have a competitor that doesn't give two shits about their users... just like you.

Ubuntu fans, down-mod away. You know you want to. But really, this has already crossed the line of "ridiculous" a while back... and it's still only getting worse. At this point, I fully expect Ubuntu to reach the point of Apple and Microsoft: users be damned, we don't care what you want, we're working for ourselves. And yet they'll keep that philosophy claiming that it's a "free operating system for everyone to use." You know, that "humanity toward others" nonsense. Okay, Canonical... who are you advertising those Kindle Fires to? Some poor AIDS and malaria patients somewhere in Africa?

Just another reason not to use or recommend Ubuntu to anyone I know... and I haven't since probably 2008, when they started going downhill. The real question is, can this shit be turned off? Not that it really matters in the end, because Ubuntu is already too far lost to even consider again in the future.

Edited 2012-09-23 01:13 UTC

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RE: What... the... f***... :|
by Gone fishing on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 01:32 in reply to "What... the... f***... :|"
Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

As an Ubuntu user and someone who likes Unity, I don't want this. I don't want all my local searches, all my use of the dash shared with Amazon, I don't want targeted advertising and I don't want adware, spyware etc. Presumably it can be removed but it shouldn't be there, and if it stays I would likely reluctantly change distro.

I don't have a problem with a shopping lens, but I need to be able to not use it, putting it in the home lens is not acceptable.

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RE: What... the... f***... :|
by Soulbender on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 03:45 in reply to "What... the... f***... :|"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Move the window manager icons on left

Oh noes.

Remove the GIMP

Hmm,I can see gimp right there, install-able from the software center. Doesn't look removed to me.

Announce ditching the X Window System for the still far from proven Wayland.


It's an announcement that they want adopt wayland early and when it's ready. Oh my, what a horrible thing to do. You may have noticed that it hasn't happened yet.

Switch from a shitty (literally) brown theme to another horrible looking theme that looks like a kid dumped purple and orange food colorings in a shallow pan of milk.


You do know that different cultures favors different colors, right? Personally I've always liked the earthy Ubuntu colors. It's a design choice, it doesn't have to suit everyone. Sure beats the billions of boring blue/gray color schemes out there.

But really, this has already crossed the line of "ridiculous" a while back...


You must be talking about your own comments.

Note, I didn't mod you down.

Okay, Canonical... who are you advertising those Kindle Fires to? Some poor AIDS and malaria patients somewhere in Africa?


Wow. Just wow. I'm sure that wasn't intended to sound as judgmental as it did but still.

Edited 2012-09-23 03:45 UTC

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Hmm,I can see gimp right there, install-able from the software center. Doesn't look removed to me.

I knew that one was coming. Here, let me clarify what I meant in a more complete explanation. I admit I was a bit vague on what exactly I meant, and it was too late to update the post:

"Remove the GIMP, without providing a decent, suitable alternative in its place on the standard installation disc."

Yes, it's in the repositories, always has been. It's a simple "sudo apt-get install gimp" away for anyone who knows how and wants to use the command line. Hell, it's even somewhere in the software center as you mentioned (I would hope so, considering the software center is just a glorified GUI for the package management system, dumbed down for people who don't know Linux).

But should a regular user be forced to go out of their way to install, of all things, a bitmap image editor? F-Spot or whatever it is was *not* a suitable replacement. It is an image organizer/library application that wants you to make copies of all your pictures in a another directory just to use it (no thanks, I have a file system and don't want copies of my pictures all over the place), and it offers no real bitmap creation/editing support.

And don't try to say that crop, rotate and remove red-eye provide proper, complete image editing functionality.

It's an announcement that they want adopt wayland early and when it's ready. Oh my, what a horrible thing to do. You may have noticed that it hasn't happened yet.

Just as they "adopted" Unity when it was "ready"? Note the sarcasm.

You do know that different cultures favors different colors, right? Personally I've always liked the earthy Ubuntu colors. It's a design choice, it doesn't have to suit everyone. Sure beats the billions of boring blue/gray color schemes out there.

Hey, if you like the color of dirt, mud and shit, by all means, enjoy yourself. You might just be one of the few people who has less post-install configuration to do.

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RE: What... the... f***... :|
by Morgan on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 22:12 in reply to "What... the... f***... :|"
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I actually agree with most of your issues, which is why I don't use Ubuntu for much of anything anymore. When I do I use Lubuntu and build up from there; it's a great starting point.

But a few things you said are a bit nonsensical. You said:

Switch from a shitty (literally) brown theme to another horrible looking theme that looks like a kid dumped purple and orange food colorings in a shallow pan of milk.


Honestly, if the default color scheme of an OS bugs you enough to stop using it, especially when it's an OS that makes it dead simple to change themes, you've got some serious personal issues to address. That's not an attack, it's simply an observation, and I think it was a poor choice for your rant. Again, just my opinion.

Okay, Canonical... who are you advertising those Kindle Fires to? Some poor AIDS and malaria patients somewhere in Africa?


That was a low blow and uncalled for. Those people have done nothing to you and should not be used as a pawn to make a silly point. But beyond that, Ubuntu happens to have a huge presence in the U.S., Europe and Asia compared to other GNU/Linux distros and it's those eyes they are targeting. I don't like the idea of the Amazon lens myself, but I'm not going to stoop to your level to make the argument.

And yet they'll keep that philosophy claiming that it's a "free operating system for everyone to use." You know, that "humanity toward others" nonsense.


That's exactly what it is, despite how we feel about the company behind it. Until the day Canonical stops using the Linux kernel and GNU utilities, stops giving out the source code, and stops giving away the OS for free, it will remain a free/Free OS.

Bottom line, just don't use it anymore. Recommend something else to your friends. Everyone else, just like you, is free to make up their own mind. ;)

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RE: What... the... f***... :|
by lucas_maximus on Mon 24th Sep 2012 13:11 in reply to "What... the... f***... :|"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

You are free to use something else if you don't like it.

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