Linked by thesunnyk on Sun 23rd Sep 2012 22:14 UTC
Gnome "Gnome 3 has received a lot of disapproval of late, from the Gnome foundation being charged with not taking care of its users, or losing mindshare, to Gnome 3 itself being an unusable mess. I've been using Gnome 3 myself for a few months to sort the truth from the fiction, and to try and understand just how the Gnome foundation expects their newest shell to be used. I will end with some thoughts on how Gnome 3 can be improved. The review will require a fairly lengthy preface, however."
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RE[4]: Everything hidden
by r_a_trip on Mon 24th Sep 2012 14:42 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Everything hidden"
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That is very black and white. Or you are the super human "savior" or you are basically "Judas".

How about being one the billions of people who go about their day completely oblivious of the real structure of their reality? If it works and one is happy, what is the harm? (The other alternative in The Matrix would have been total annihilation for both species. Machines can't "live" without energy. Humans can't live in the scorched Earth they left behind.)

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RE[5]: Everything hidden
by thesunnyk on Tue 25th Sep 2012 06:56 in reply to "RE[4]: Everything hidden"
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I'm getting too deep into this metaphor to make it make sense any more. I just have to get out before I get myself into an Inception metaphor.

My point was really simple actually, and it's one used by detractors of skeuomorphism everywhere: that if a computer models something in the real world, it is then limited by that model, which doesn't need to be the case. For example, having a "book" with "pages", but the pages can scroll. It all gets a little silly, so pushing for a model in the real world at all is fruitless.

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RE[6]: Everything hidden
by r_a_trip on Wed 26th Sep 2012 13:45 in reply to "RE[5]: Everything hidden"
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Computers are limited to humans. If there were no humans and computers did exist, I doubt there would be things as GUI's and metaphors.

The limitations (including skeuomorphism) are not there for the computers, they are there to let their digitally inferior makers interface with them. So basically anything that makes interacting with these machines easier is a go, technically silly or not.

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RE[5]: Everything hidden
by zima on Fri 28th Sep 2012 13:10 in reply to "RE[4]: Everything hidden"
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Machines can't "live" without energy. Humans can't live in the scorched Earth they left behind.)

Which was stupid, depicting humans like we are perpetuum mobile...

I was kinda hoping for some major twist in 2nd-3rd part, one that would make sense of it - say, that the humans did in fact win the war (what should be expected - note how vulnerable the sentinels were to EMP, and nukes generate a lot of EMP), but we were too dependent and/or enjoying machine tech to discard it we enslaved the machines in the matrix - and "convincing" them that they are humans would be an even better method than the idea of matrix as depicted. Plus it would certainly explain some real-world abilities of Neo (after all, there's virtually no way for humans to generate EMP, or to remain connected to matrix while unplugged), how knowledge, skills (fighting ones, usually), or Smith can be just uploaded (and "he's a machine" while Cypher does this to Neo could be seen as a hint...), how the Architect, Oracle, Merovingian seem most, well, human.
Sure, they looked human also in the real world - which would be just a matter of properly modified software in sensors or in part of "brain" interpreting them.

But we just got more of the perpetuum mobile silliness...

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