Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Sep 2012 15:07 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
General Development "I've been programming professionally for about 3 years at this point, and I've noticed some interesting patterns in other programmers I've worked with. One of the key differentiators among programmers is motivation. I'm not referring to an individual's passion to simply be successful in their career, but rather the type of work they want to pursue. The thing they want to do with computers every day, the types of problems they are interested in solving."
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Possible link with personality types?
by Yamin on Mon 24th Sep 2012 16:13 UTC
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Engineers - INTJ/ENTJ
Scientists - INTP/ENTP
Developers - ISTP

Just a guess. But I wonder if you could test for these to get a better understanding of the team.

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earksiinni Member since:

Personality typing makes me sad.

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M.Onty Member since:

Aye. What if you're the type of person who reacts badly to being asked by an employer to take an intrusive personality test so they can better manage you? How does that person fit into their system? I've seen people take test that and thereafter act up the role they were assigned, much as what happens with horoscopes.

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Yamin Member since:

They make me happy ;)

I'm sure I just dismissed them when I went to high school. Apparently everyone knew about it. I only began understanding it recently when my manager brought it up.

It's very useful actually.
Being an INTJ I am always so insanely focused on does this work. It used to bug me why other people weren't so focused on does it work. I understand a little bit now... and the downsides of my own thinking.

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theosib Member since:

Engineers - INTJ/ENTJ
Scientists - INTP/ENTP
Developers - ISTP

I dunno about that. It's always interesting to me how people focus on the positives of types and ignore the negatives. If you are classified as A, then that means you're not classified as B, meaning you lack some talent. Well, that's not true, because people are always multiple cooperating types (but not some of ALL types!), but let's be stupid and ignore that.

All of the NTs make good scientists because they all like to pick apart the logical structure of things. BUT: INTJs tend to develop intricate grand theories of everything and then assume anyone who contradicts their theory is stupid. INTPs get caught up in deductive logic, losing sight of the big picture. ENTJs will get stuck on some grand plan they want to implement and will have trouble letting go if it turns out to be a bad idea. And ENTPs want to spend more time debating than getting things done.

And let's not forget that ISTJs are good at this stuff because they're massive stores of facts, and facts are crucial for science.

ISTPs are gadget freaks, and this leads to too much playing and not enough working.

I can point out the negative side of any MBTI type, actually. ;)

BTW, as for me, I'm an experienced and successful engineer, and I have a doctorate and am a professor of computer science. I mentioned in another comment that according to this guy's model, I'm really mode of an engineer than scientist. My personality type? Well, I get different results. Through a lot of reflection and analysis, it appears that I'm distinctly an INTP, but I've often tested out as ENTJ. As I've gotten older and more socially aware, I've started to test as an ENFJ, but with strong T leanings. Upon more careful analysis, I detect INFP and ISFJ characteristics as well to a minor degree.

BTW, I have performed what you might call "differential diagnosis" (look it up) regarding personality type, and I believe I can determine presence and absence of particular types. So for instance, although ENFJ and INFJ have a lot in common (same dominant and auxiliary functions, just in a different order), there are characteristics that distinguish them. So I can work out if you have ENFJ or INFJ as discrete elements in your personality, or both, or neither. To give you another example, I competely lack ESTJ in my personality in any form.

I should make an aside here and point out that this doesn't really qualify as science. I guess it's a set of falsifiable conjectures, but it would be totally impractical to test it. So it must be relegated to "fun guesses about brain stuff."

Someone is probably going to come along and point out that MBTI is "just preferences." True. MBTI is. But if you break it down to Jungian functions, it's not. It makes more sense to describe a personality in terms of multiple sets of connected talents, and MBTI attempts (poorly) to pigeon-hole you into just one of those categories.

And lastly, personality type doesn't mean as much as you think it does. It doesn't tell you what you can or cannot do intellectually. It tells you what is intellectually OBVIOUS to you. But intelligent people think about non-obvious stuff all the time. So just because you're not an INFJ doesn't mean you can't read people's emotions -- it just means you have to work harder at it.

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mistersoft Member since:

+10 for that ;-)

...and for those of us with quite fractured personalities...... we tick many of the different boxes on that list depending on the day of the week.

similarly, i'm rarely if ever ESTJ either.

in myself i can probably see lots of INFJ, INFP, INTJ, INTP, probably INTJ foremostly ..but chunks of ESTP, ESFP, even bits of ENFP, ENFJ...even ESTP a little. ESTJ and ESTP v little...but not zero. touches of ENFJ, ENTP and even a bit of ENTJ i reckon - however I'm conversely quite tolerant of the occasion benefits of in a healthily chaotic mind/reality. Inefficiency a lot less so. I wouldn't be at all surprised if I have a mildy schizotypal personality tbh -alternatively it's been suggested I might have mild aspbergers too (but various siblings and friends who are doctors with psychiatric experience have said that's 'boll*x' to coin a phrase). I'm a professional scientist by the way. And am alternatively highly organised, disciplined and driven, and lazy, chaotic, and crazy ;-) .I rate Bertrand Russell's In Praise of Idleness amongst other gem's. apparently was a bit of a misogynist in his old age tho ;)

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kwan_e Member since:

Personality type theory is just modern astrology - which is no surprise since Carl Jung studied astrology.

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