Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Sep 2012 17:19 UTC
Legal "A leaked document from the CleanIT project shows just how far internal discussions in that initiative have drifted away from its publicly stated aims, as well as the most fundamental legal rules that underpin European democracy and the rule of law. The European Commission-funded CleanIT project claims that it wants to fight terrorism through voluntary self-regulatory measures that defends the rule of law. The initial meetings of the initiative, with their directionless and ill-informed discussions about doing 'something' to solve unidentified online 'terrorist' problems were mainly attended by filtering companies, who saw an interesting business opportunity. Their work has paid off, with numerous proposals for filtering by companies and governments, proposals for liability in case sufficiently intrusive filtering is not used, and calls for increased funding by governments of new filtering technologies." I'll just leave a link here to one of the most popular OSNews articles of all time.
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RE[2]: Fascism returns!!!
by the_trapper on Mon 24th Sep 2012 21:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Fascism returns!!!"
the_trapper
Member since:
2005-07-07

Just to clarify, I was definitely being tongue-in-cheek with that. As a member of the United States armed forces it sickens me to no end what has come of our freedoms in America post 9/11.

It's even more frightening that Mitt Romney is actually a viable presidential candidate, and even if he loses the best we can hope for is 4 more years of Obama. Depressing times.

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RE[3]: Fascism returns!!!
by WereCatf on Tue 25th Sep 2012 02:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Fascism returns!!!"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Just to clarify, I was definitely being tongue-in-cheek with that. As a member of the United States armed forces it sickens me to no end what has come of our freedoms in America post 9/11.

It's even more frightening that Mitt Romney is actually a viable presidential candidate, and even if he loses the best we can hope for is 4 more years of Obama. Depressing times.


I like to sometimes play around with the idea of what would happen if I were to become a president candidate, what with me being pansexual, polyamorous, having a bunch of health-issues, being long-time unemployed, having been at the brink of alcoholism, gone through serious depression, I know absolutely f*ck all about politics and I don't give a flying f*ck about the wishes of corporations if those wishes clash with the needs of the public or myself, plus I'm a fat loser who spends most of her time in front of a computer. How things play around here in Finland I might actually have a chance of winning the elections just on the basis of having lots in common with your Average Joe and standing so starkly apart from the other candidates!

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RE[3]: Fascism returns!!!
by Fennec_Fox on Tue 25th Sep 2012 17:43 in reply to "RE[2]: Fascism returns!!!"
Fennec_Fox Member since:
2006-10-30

As a matter of personal opinion, this is a direct consequence of a 2-party system. Such rigid setting automaticaly results in a boolean choice - there is no middle-ground, 3rd alternative (real one), etc. "Fuzzy logic" concept is not permitted. Polarization / confrontation is built into the system. Red and Blue can not and will not work together. By definition.

Under these conditions, defeating the opponent becomes the ultimate goal in itself - everything else is secondary. It is more evident in Republican philosophy, where all proposals from the Democrats, - however constructive and sensible they might be, - are automatically rejected, opposed, blocked, filibustered for one reason only - they came from the "other" camp, therefore we will fight them. Full stop. Dems are better at compromizing, but just barely.

Time to change the entire polytical system, non? ;)

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RE[4]: Fascism returns!!!
by Alfman on Tue 25th Sep 2012 18:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Fascism returns!!!"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Fennec_Fox,

Doh, I couldn't give you +1, but it's the truth.

The bipartisan stage is horrible at promoting good representation. All to often we have to vote on politicians who are most likely to win instead of those who have the best ideas.

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RE[3]: Fascism returns!!!
by zima on Mon 1st Oct 2012 22:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Fascism returns!!!"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

As a member of the United States armed forces it sickens me to no end what has come of our freedoms in America post 9/11.

That seems like a weird construct, way of saying it - I mean, the connection between one and the other is... well, not a long time ago, polls showed that a majority of US soldiers still thought that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11 (so, myths of the kind which brought that "what has come of our freedoms" cherished by members of the biggest stick in the world ...and who do you think will crack down any major "civil disorder" in the US?)

Edited 2012-10-01 22:54 UTC

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