Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 24th Sep 2012 22:34 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It's going to be a rough month for what was once one of the most successful smartphone companies in the world. Between all the Android and iOS violence, it's easy to forget there's this Canadian company which was still growing its userbase every month. However, it's expected the company will lose subscribers for the very first time.
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RE[4]: Comment by NuxRo
by MOS6510 on Tue 25th Sep 2012 14:37 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by NuxRo"
MOS6510
Member since:
2011-05-12

An article from December last year, suggesting you use Dell phones running Android 2.2? Well, have fun with that.

I think the truth is more that governments have trouble peeking in an iPhone than an Android one. Your own users are the biggest security risks and you don't want them to use devices you can't get access to.

You claim "They are allowed modified Android phones", while in reality it is only one model phone, an obscure Dell phone. It is only allowed after it received its modification. This says nothing about iPhone security.

They took an Android phone because it's easy to modify and add their own backdoors to it. So if you're fond of privacy and security never ever use a phone given to you by a government agency.

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RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo
by TM99 on Tue 25th Sep 2012 15:04 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by NuxRo"
TM99 Member since:
2012-08-26

An article from December last year, suggesting you use Dell phones running Android 2.2? Well, have fun with that.


Specifications are constantly updated. Obviously you know nothing of how government and military work with regards to technology. They are slow to implement and use 'outdated' tech by current pop standards.

I think the truth is more that governments have trouble peeking in an iPhone than an Android one. Your own users are the biggest security risks and you don't want them to use devices you can't get access to.


Please don't kid yourself that iPhones are the height of security. Your second sentence is one important aspect of a 'secure' phone for corporate or government use.

You claim "They are allowed modified Android phones", while in reality it is only one model phone, an obscure Dell phone. It is only allowed after it received its modification. This says nothing about iPhone security.


Again, one illustrative article but not where it stands almost a year later. I won't do the research for you on this one. Get out of your bubble and do it yourself, if you are truly interested.

They took an Android phone because it's easy to modify and add their own backdoors to it. So if you're fond of privacy and security never ever use a phone given to you by a government agency.


Again, seriously? If you work for a government agency, you have no choice. Period. That is different than private phone security, but I think you know that, right?

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RE[6]: Comment by NuxRo
by MOS6510 on Tue 25th Sep 2012 15:38 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

So in summary:
* You say you posted an outdated article, although Wikipedia still claims the Dell Venue is the only allowed phone.

* What you claim and what the government does doesn't say anything about iPhone (or any other phone, including Android ones) security.

* Government issued phones don't offer the user any personal security or privacy advantages, only disadvantages.

I conclude it was another piece of anti-Apple FUD once again based on very dodgy logic and strange assumptions.

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RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo
by Laurence on Tue 25th Sep 2012 15:08 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by NuxRo"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

This says nothing about iPhone security.

That's because nobody was discussing iPhone security until you jumped in


They took an Android phone because it's easy to modify and add their own backdoors to it.

That's likely part of the reason. But the article did list a number of other specific reasons why iPhones weren't used.


So if you're fond of privacy and security never ever use a phone given to you by a government agency.

If you were that paranoid that the government are watching you, then you wouldn't be applying for jobs in the DOJ to begin with :p

The fact is, everyone is watching and logging your activities. Google, Apple, your ISP, the web servers you connect to, your telecoms company every time you make a call, your bank every time you make a transaction....everyone. We only enjoy relative anonymity due to the scale of the data collected (aka security through obscurity), but don't think governments nor private entities (if just via civil lawsuits) couldn't access a wealth of data against you should they decide to single you out.

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RE[6]: Comment by NuxRo
by MOS6510 on Tue 25th Sep 2012 15:46 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

I reacted to:
Despite the desire to hop on the Apple bandwagon, iPhones are not allowed for usage.

That security?


So it was not I that brought up the iPhone.

All smart phones are tracked in some or multiple ways. The goverment wants to track it their way, so they modified a Dell Venue. This motivates someone, somehow, that iPhones are not secure.

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RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo
by No it isnt on Tue 25th Sep 2012 15:54 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by NuxRo"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Oh wow, looks like the RDF still works fine without Jobs.

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RE[6]: Comment by NuxRo
by MOS6510 on Tue 25th Sep 2012 16:18 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by NuxRo"
MOS6510 Member since:
2011-05-12

Oh wow, that's some great arguments.

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