Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Sep 2012 02:57 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Right now, the mobile wars have just two major combatants: Apple's iOS and Google's Android. Nokia could yet make Windows Phone a serious third player, but there are also a few more minor actors with the potential to disrupt the market. Jolla is the most mysterious of those players, which also include Firefox OS and Open WebOS. Jolla (a Finnish word for a small sailing boat) arose from the ashes of Nokia and Intel's MeeGo project, canned in favour of Microsoft's mobile OS. The Linux-based OS has not been shown off yet, but Jolla has already scored a deal with China's top phone distributor, DPhone. The first Jolla device is due later this year, so to find out more I spoke with the company's chief executive, ex-Nokian Jussi Hurmola." Please let Jolla succeed. Pretty please with sugar on top. The industry needs this. Please.
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RE: Phones and data gathering
by Neolander on Wed 26th Sep 2012 13:59 UTC in reply to "Phones and data gathering"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

Depends on what you call "unusable". The only task for which I have found a Google account to be absolutely necessary on Android is installing stuff from Google Play, and on this front they are on par with Apple's App Store offering.

However, what is highly annoying on Android is that when you do link the phone to your Google account, if you do not want it to leak lots of personal information to Google servers, you have to hunt obscure privacy settings all around the system apps. There is no centralized option to state "hands off my personal data !".

I don't know if Apple are any better on this front, I think I have heard somewhere that they do not even provide a way to opt out of personal monitoring on iOS, as is possible but painful on Android, but I don't know if it is true or not.

Edited 2012-09-26 14:00 UTC

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RE[2]: Phones and data gathering
by Alfman on Wed 26th Sep 2012 16:18 in reply to "RE: Phones and data gathering"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

Personally what I find exceptionally annoying is the lack of control over application privacy settings. At least the installation shows us what those settings are, but it's all or nothing. A user should be able to install an application without loosing control over privacy.

This is such an obvious shortcoming that we have to conclude google deliberately designed it to remove a user's choice in the matter. This is decidedly evil IMHO.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Personally what I find exceptionally annoying is the lack of control over application privacy settings. At least the installation shows us what those settings are, but it's all or nothing. A user should be able to install an application without loosing control over privacy.

This is such an obvious shortcoming that we have to conclude google deliberately designed it to remove a user's choice in the matter. This is decidedly evil IMHO.

Well, considering that Cyanogenmod implemented selective privacy setting changes in a seemingly trivial fashion, I would tend to agree with you on this one.

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moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

I don't know if Apple are any better on this front, I think I have heard somewhere that they do not even provide a way to opt out of personal monitoring on iOS, as is possible but painful on Android, but I don't know if it is true or not.


They are worse, because until version 6, iOS allowed access to your personal data to all applications.

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