Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Sep 2012 20:16 UTC, submitted by Bob Stein
Windows ActiveWin.com has just posted their 45-page, 40-screenshot review of Microsoft Windows 8. The review covers many different aspects of the OS including performance, security, application compatibility, and more. "Is Windows 8 a hit or miss? It's a hit, it is clearly Microsoft's most bold development in years, it probably beats out the transition from Program Manager (Windows 3X) to Windows 95, the move from Windows 9x to the NT Kernel. The Windows 8 platform represents so many things: truly touch centric, support for modern processor architectures, fast and fluid as Microsoft puts it and also represents where the majority of the world is heading when it comes to computing, entirely mobile."
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Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

27" is not something a majority of users even have. So of course the touch experience will be a little awkward.

On a tablet, or on a laptop, it really isn't half bad. Especially on a laptop with updated touch pad drivers to allow for Windows 8 gestures.

Going forward, all Windows 8 devices will come with optimized touch pads, touch screens, touch accessories, or a combination of all three. Windows sets the new standard, and subsequently hardware will be released to match it.

A great majority of all Windows 8 sales are brand new device sales, so I can't envision this being a problem for anyone other than a select type of user.


Also your last bit about the actionbar is incorrect. You can swipe in from the bottom and it calls both top and bottom action bars.

Edited 2012-09-26 23:53 UTC

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ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

So Windows 8 is optimized for future devices?

That's a dumb business plan given their existing market base, especially when the OS could adapt to the device instead of following this ridiculous idea that all devices MUST have the same interface.

Try looking at their financials sometime, yes they actually make billions from upgrades.

You're going be on record defending one of the dumbest business plans in tech history.

I hope you've enjoyed your time shilling here, I doubt you'll stick around after the disaster.

MSFT is at $30.00. Take a good look because it will soon intersect with the reality that Windows 8 sucks and there won't be enough Nelsons on the planet to stop people from selling.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

You need a therapist.

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saso Member since:
2007-04-18

27" is not something a majority of users even have.

And you determined this... how? All of Dell's new all-in-one desktop machines are either 20'' or bigger (I tried it on their flagship product in this category, the XPS One 27''). All new monitors we buy are 24'' at a minimum. Your statement is simply at variation with reality.

So of course the touch experience will be a little awkward.

Then why the hell even put it there?

On a tablet, or on a laptop, it really isn't half bad.

I was talking about touch screens on desktops. You're arguing against something I didn't say.

Especially on a laptop with updated touch pad drivers to allow for Windows 8 gestures.
Going forward, all Windows 8 devices will come with optimized touch pads, touch screens, touch accessories, or a combination of all three. Windows sets the new standard, and subsequently hardware will be released to match it.
A great majority of all Windows 8 sales are brand new device sales, so I can't envision this being a problem for anyone other than a select type of user.

This Dell machine is a brand new just-released-to-market product that was designed with Windows 8 in mind. Your argument simply doesn't hold water.

Also your last bit about the actionbar is incorrect. You can swipe in from the bottom and it calls both top and bottom action bars.

I tried multiple times on two different machines. It worked on neither. Since the Windows 8 release on them was marked RTM I assumed this wasn't a bug.

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saso Member since:
2007-04-18

Your statement is simply at variation with reality.

Minor correction here, I meant to say something in the sense of "Your statement is irrelevant". That is to say that while strictly speaking, yes, the majority of computer users may not have a 27'' screen (simply because the majority of computers sold are laptops), it is irrelevant to the point I was making (desktop machines with touch screens). On desktops screens in the ~23-30'' range are really quite common and the Metro UI simply doesn't scale to it (either with or without touch; points 3 and 4 of my original post pertain to non-touch screens just as much as touch-enabled ones).

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29


And you determined this... how? All of Dell's new all-in-one desktop machines are either 20'' or bigger (I tried it on their flagship product in this category, the XPS One 27''). All new monitors we buy are 24'' at a minimum. Your statement is simply at variation with reality.


I think you realized what a stupid reply this was. The majority of screen sizes are 20 inches and below.


Then why the hell even put it there?


At those sizes, touch augments, not replaces, the interaction experience. You didn't touch your All In One for everything prior, did you?


I was talking about touch screens on desktops. You're arguing against something I didn't say.


It would make sense of you didn't mince my point and nitpick. I was saying that in contrast, touch is designed to be the only input method has a falling off point you're rapidly approaching. It also coincides with your exotic choice of hardware.

You're outside the norm expecting norm results.



This Dell machine is a brand new just-released-to-market product that was designed with Windows 8 in mind. Your argument simply doesn't hold water.


Really? Which model? Dells W8 AIO lineup isn't out yet. I know because I'm looking for one.

The Windows 7 class hardware multitouch digitizer isn't up to snuff with new W8 requirements which is why charms bars can be hit or miss, why its usually only three or five point multi touch, and why responsiveness falls off toward the center.


I tried multiple times on two different machines. It worked on neither. Since the Windows 8 release on them was marked RTM I assumed this wasn't a bug.


Windows Store doesn't even have a bottom app bar, it has a green top one. And in IE a bottom swipe brings up the top app bar. Same with other apps.

In fact this is baked into the SDK if you check the MSDN documents.

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