Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Sep 2012 20:16 UTC, submitted by Bob Stein
Windows ActiveWin.com has just posted their 45-page, 40-screenshot review of Microsoft Windows 8. The review covers many different aspects of the OS including performance, security, application compatibility, and more. "Is Windows 8 a hit or miss? It's a hit, it is clearly Microsoft's most bold development in years, it probably beats out the transition from Program Manager (Windows 3X) to Windows 95, the move from Windows 9x to the NT Kernel. The Windows 8 platform represents so many things: truly touch centric, support for modern processor architectures, fast and fluid as Microsoft puts it and also represents where the majority of the world is heading when it comes to computing, entirely mobile."
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RE[2]: A mixed bag
by WorknMan on Thu 27th Sep 2012 00:44 UTC in reply to "RE: A mixed bag"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

Well, of course metro is irrelevant to *us*, but it wasn't made for us either. When the iPad came out, geeks around the world turned their noses up at it and said, 'This isn't OSX... it's just a big iPod Touch. It'll never sell.' Well, that shows how much we know ;)

The real test of metro is when tech tards and soccer moms get their hands on it. If they take to it, then it'll be a success as far as MS is concerned. If the computer-illiterate masses don't like it though, then MS is in serious trouble.

For this reason, I pretty much ignore metro as it is now, as you should too. Don't fall into the trap of having your geek sensibilities offended just because it is there. Benchmarks have already proven that Windows 8 is faster than 7 and more memory efficient, so it's not slowing down the system. And it doesn't really get in your way either if you don't seek it out.

The one obvious exception is the start screen; since MS removed the start menu, there's pretty much no getting around it without a start menu replacement. However, after having gotten familiar with it, I'm not entirely convinced that a start menu replacement is absolutely necessary, depending on what you used the start menu for. Once I figured out that I could pin desktop apps to it, I was pretty much good to go. In fact, I find that since I can resize tiles and separate them into logical groups, it's actually an improvement over the old start menu. And you can do searches as well, just hit the Windows key and start typing.

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RE[3]: A mixed bag
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 27th Sep 2012 01:42 in reply to "RE[2]: A mixed bag"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

Well, of course metro is irrelevant to *us*, but it wasn't made for us either.

Well considering Windows probably still has over 90% market share, who the hell is Metro for then? I would say it's meant to be shoved down every single PC buyer's throat once released, just like every single Windows version released before it. Of course, Microsoft wants that to be everyone.

Every computer anyone ever buys, Microsoft wants Windows on it. They've largely succeeded, except now they're going in for the kill on non-traditional devices (tablets, etc.), while pulling a GNOME and forcing their crummy GUI environment on devices it was never designed for.

If Metro wasn't "made for us," then why is there not a version of Windows 8 that doesn't try to force it down your throat? Exactly. They somehow expect it to be some kind of miraculous one-size-fits-all that they somehow believe so strongly in that they're foisting it upon all of us.

Edited 2012-09-27 01:46 UTC

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RE[4]: A mixed bag
by Nelson on Thu 27th Sep 2012 02:49 in reply to "RE[3]: A mixed bag"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

You're a vocal minority. A statistical rounding error in the grand scheme of things. Your opinion, while valuable to you, is largely meaningless.

There was careful and methodical reasoning behind a lot of the decisions made with Windows 8. Lengthy blog posts.

Telemetry which suggested usage patterns and hardware configurations. Endless data. Yet, you come here without directly even addressing that, and instead pretend to speak on behalf of a sizeable portion of the Windows userbase.

I think you grossly overstate the amount of people who concern themselves with such things. Remember how Vista DRM was the end of the world? In the end, no one gave a shit. Same deal here.

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RE[4]: A mixed bag
by galvanash on Thu 27th Sep 2012 02:57 in reply to "RE[3]: A mixed bag"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

Its not "one size fits all"... Its "one size fits most, and we'll deal with everyone else in a point release".

This has been true of every major release of Windows, and virtually every other popular piece of software, to one degree or another. I get that many people hate Metro - but even more people hated on XP when it first shipped. Look at how that turned out... Now the problem with XP is killing the damn thing off - its like the energizer bunny or something.

Anyway, I'm just saying... This kind of knee-jerk reaction to major changes in a piece of software is nothing new (KDE? Gnome?). Time has a way of working it all out - some of it being people getting used to a foreign way of doing things, some of it the vendor straightening out the rough spots.

I'm not saying Metro is all good - but it isn't all bad either... Anyone thinking that Metro is dead on arrival is just not learning the lessons of history - its going to take a year or two and a few revisions to see if it really has legs or not.

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RE[3]: A mixed bag
by ze_jerkface on Thu 27th Sep 2012 06:22 in reply to "RE[2]: A mixed bag"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Faster at what exactly? Booting into the unwanted Metro screen?

Programs are already pre-cached in Windows 7.

Don't fall for the unnoticeable benchmarks trap. Geeks have been falling for that in browser benchmarks for years.

Windows 8 is a POS. Metro is the worst aspect and what users will notice first and then continually. It's fucking adware.

Fuck Windows 8. The world will agree with me.

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