Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 26th Sep 2012 20:16 UTC, submitted by Bob Stein
Windows has just posted their 45-page, 40-screenshot review of Microsoft Windows 8. The review covers many different aspects of the OS including performance, security, application compatibility, and more. "Is Windows 8 a hit or miss? It's a hit, it is clearly Microsoft's most bold development in years, it probably beats out the transition from Program Manager (Windows 3X) to Windows 95, the move from Windows 9x to the NT Kernel. The Windows 8 platform represents so many things: truly touch centric, support for modern processor architectures, fast and fluid as Microsoft puts it and also represents where the majority of the world is heading when it comes to computing, entirely mobile."
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RE[3]: A mixed bag
by UltraZelda64 on Thu 27th Sep 2012 01:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: A mixed bag"
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Well, of course metro is irrelevant to *us*, but it wasn't made for us either.

Well considering Windows probably still has over 90% market share, who the hell is Metro for then? I would say it's meant to be shoved down every single PC buyer's throat once released, just like every single Windows version released before it. Of course, Microsoft wants that to be everyone.

Every computer anyone ever buys, Microsoft wants Windows on it. They've largely succeeded, except now they're going in for the kill on non-traditional devices (tablets, etc.), while pulling a GNOME and forcing their crummy GUI environment on devices it was never designed for.

If Metro wasn't "made for us," then why is there not a version of Windows 8 that doesn't try to force it down your throat? Exactly. They somehow expect it to be some kind of miraculous one-size-fits-all that they somehow believe so strongly in that they're foisting it upon all of us.

Edited 2012-09-27 01:46 UTC

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RE[4]: A mixed bag
by Nelson on Thu 27th Sep 2012 02:49 in reply to "RE[3]: A mixed bag"
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You're a vocal minority. A statistical rounding error in the grand scheme of things. Your opinion, while valuable to you, is largely meaningless.

There was careful and methodical reasoning behind a lot of the decisions made with Windows 8. Lengthy blog posts.

Telemetry which suggested usage patterns and hardware configurations. Endless data. Yet, you come here without directly even addressing that, and instead pretend to speak on behalf of a sizeable portion of the Windows userbase.

I think you grossly overstate the amount of people who concern themselves with such things. Remember how Vista DRM was the end of the world? In the end, no one gave a shit. Same deal here.

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RE[5]: A mixed bag
by ze_jerkface on Thu 27th Sep 2012 06:26 in reply to "RE[4]: A mixed bag"
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Oh I see you fell for Sinofsky's blog posts about telemetry which never actually included outside public user studies. He also didn't respond to any of the polls that showed overwhelming rejection. In fact the little Jobs wannabe hasn't been blogging and is hiding in a corner somewhere.

But what do I know, after all Microsoft always releases products after careful market testing.


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RE[5]: A mixed bag
by quackalist on Thu 27th Sep 2012 08:25 in reply to "RE[4]: A mixed bag"
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Hmm, speaking statistical rounding error to statistical rounding error you really suck at rhetoric, thanks anyway for your invaluable opinion.

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RE[4]: A mixed bag
by galvanash on Thu 27th Sep 2012 02:57 in reply to "RE[3]: A mixed bag"
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Its not "one size fits all"... Its "one size fits most, and we'll deal with everyone else in a point release".

This has been true of every major release of Windows, and virtually every other popular piece of software, to one degree or another. I get that many people hate Metro - but even more people hated on XP when it first shipped. Look at how that turned out... Now the problem with XP is killing the damn thing off - its like the energizer bunny or something.

Anyway, I'm just saying... This kind of knee-jerk reaction to major changes in a piece of software is nothing new (KDE? Gnome?). Time has a way of working it all out - some of it being people getting used to a foreign way of doing things, some of it the vendor straightening out the rough spots.

I'm not saying Metro is all good - but it isn't all bad either... Anyone thinking that Metro is dead on arrival is just not learning the lessons of history - its going to take a year or two and a few revisions to see if it really has legs or not.

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RE[5]: A mixed bag
by WorknMan on Thu 27th Sep 2012 05:14 in reply to "RE[4]: A mixed bag"
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Its not "one size fits all"... Its "one size fits most, and we'll deal with everyone else in a point release".

Exactly. It should be noted that when Windows 95 came out, people hated the start menu and went looking for how to enable the Win 3.1 program manager.

That does NOT mean I am trying to defend metro in its current state... while it may be good for your average iPad-using soccer mom, it sucks ass for anybody who needs to get real work done. Whoever came up with the idea of horizontal scrolling as a default needs to be beaten to death. And I don't mean that figuratively either... I'm actually advocating physical violence. Remove that dumbass from the gene pool.

That being said, assuming MS doesn't change its mind about metro (as they have done with most other technologies that they 'bet the company on'), it'll get better over time, to the point where they can port over fully functional versions of MS Office, Visual Studio, etc, and then they can move the rest of us over.

If you doubt me, take a look at Windows 1.0 and 2.0, which is basically what Windows 7 evolved from. Anything can be made better ;)

Edited 2012-09-27 05:15 UTC

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