Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Sep 2012 21:51 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
General Development "When I started writing programs in the late 80s it was pretty primitive and required a lot of study and skill. I was a young kid doing this stuff, the adults at that time had it even worse and some of them did start in the punch card era. This was back when programmers really had to earn their keep, and us newer generations are losing appreciation for that. A generation or two ago they may have been been better coders than us. More importantly they were better craftsmen, and we need to think about that." I'm no programmer, but I do understand that the current crop of programmers could learn a whole lot from older generations. I'm not going to burn my fingers on if they were better programmers or not, but I do believe they have a far greater understanding of the actual workings of a computer. Does the average 'app developer' have any clue whatsoever about low-level code, let alone something like assembly?
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RE: Just statistics
by mayevski on Sat 29th Sep 2012 05:39 UTC in reply to "Just statistics"
mayevski
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2012-03-16

I am afraid it's 99 to 1, not 80 to 20 rate. It was 50x50 15 years ago before expansion of computers to developing countries with no computer or logical thinking background.

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RE[2]: Just statistics
by dorin.lazar on Sat 29th Sep 2012 05:41 in reply to "RE: Just statistics"
dorin.lazar Member since:
2006-12-15

Even so, 1% out of 20 million is far better than 50% out of 50.000

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RE[3]: Just statistics
by bitwelder on Sat 29th Sep 2012 07:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Just statistics"
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2010-04-27

So, if you'd be in the business and looking for some developer, you'd prefer to find one easily, but with 99% probability that s/he'll make a buggy product, than working a little harder to find one, but with 50% confidence s/he will do the job right?

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RE[2]: Just statistics
by Soulbender on Sat 29th Sep 2012 07:40 in reply to "RE: Just statistics"
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2005-08-18

before expansion of computers to developing countries with no computer or logical thinking background.


Because, you know, the west had computer background built-in from the start even before we had computers...
I'm not even going to start on the "logical thinking" thing, it's just too moronic.

Seriously, wtf?

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RE[3]: Just statistics
by dorin.lazar on Sat 29th Sep 2012 08:11 in reply to "RE[2]: Just statistics"
dorin.lazar Member since:
2006-12-15

"before expansion of computers to developing countries with no computer or logical thinking background.


Because, you know, the west had computer background built-in from the start even before we had computers...
I'm not even going to start on the "logical thinking" thing, it's just too moronic.

Seriously, wtf?
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I think he means that thinking jobs moved to developing countries and the know-how got severely diluted in the developed countries.

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RE[2]: Just statistics
by phreck on Mon 1st Oct 2012 11:43 in reply to "RE: Just statistics"
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2009-08-13

Like, for example, India, which has no logical thinking background [0].

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[0]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_mathematics

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