Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Sep 2012 20:44 UTC
Gnome "Today, the GNOME Project celebrates the release of GNOME 3.6, the latest version of the popular free desktop, as well as the GNOME developer platform. GNOME 3.6 is the third major update of GNOME 3. It builds on the foundations that we have laid with the previous 3.x releases and offers a greatly enhanced experience. The exciting new features and improvements in this release include a new login experience, integrated input methods, a refresh of the message tray, support for more online accounts, improved accessibility, and many more."
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ndrw
Member since:
2009-06-30

Gnome 3 could become the leading Linux desktop again, provided that:

1. reversed some technical decisions (bring back a panel, get rid of the modal design),
2. detach from the designers and their ideas that brought (1).

Only then Gnome could become useful to their users, and only then the project could win back their trust. And that would still mean that Gnome would have to work their way up from a much user-base than it used to have 3 years ago.

As it is, it is a nice toy for 10-20% of Linux users but it won't be the dominant Linux desktop, and it won't be setting the direction of Linux development.

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Jason Bourne Member since:
2007-06-02

Agreed, you just summarized what needs to be done.

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satsujinka Member since:
2010-03-11

What exactly would bringing back the panel do? Similarly, what's wrong with the modal design?

Honestly, there's really nothing particularly wrong with GNOME 3. It works fine, I didn't have any troubles using it when I sat down with it for a month when it first came out.

That said, I don't use a DE on a regular basis. I'm a tiling kind of guy.

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ndrw Member since:
2009-06-30

You need a panel, a dock or a desktop gadget to access information that you need at all times. Be it a window list, a desktop pager, a CPU usage monitor etc.

Having modes in the UI is almost always a bad thing. They add complexity (you have to remember in which mode you are, how to switch between them, what you can find in each mode, and accept some functionality isn't available in the current mode) for no benefit to the user. Sometimes modes are necessary because of technological limitations (that's why original vi used them) but in most cases they are brought by laziness and lack of insight of the designer.

These are objective design flaws of Gnome Shell. It isn't just stubbornness and lack of appreciation of new ideas that is driving users away.

Cinnamon guys attempt to fix technical flaws but since they do not control the direction of Gnome they can't fix everything and, more importantly, they can't change the image of Gnome 3 devs working against the users.

All above doesn't matter if Gnome devs are happy with <20% of Linux desktop share (early adopters) but they won't recover their past position without changing the process and some of their technical decisions.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Similarly, what's wrong with the modal design?


What's "wrong" is that it's different.
Everyone always want the OSS desktop to evolve but, you know, only in ways that does not really impact them.

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